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GRENADES ARE [:-censored]ING USELESS
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Roy
February 9, 2004, 9:14 am
I CAN'T STAND IT. I [:-censored]ING HATE IT SO MUCH IT MAKES ME WANT TO STRANGLE SOMEONE.

There is no point to throwing grenades. NONE. In 1.1.5 and earlier they used to have a [:-censored]ing use, but not anymore. Now, my grenades do [:-censored]. They do less than [:-censored]. They give the guy a boost so he can get away. Meanwhile I die instantly from every single [:-censored]ing grenade I ever come across. What [:-censored]ing gives? This is supposed to be fun? [:-censored] like this is [:-censored]ing ruining the game for people like me and what does Michal do? He gives us the [:-censored]ing option to change our jetboost color. Big [:-censored]ing whoop.

Every grenade I throw is a gamble. Every one. Even if my throw is perfect and I hit the guy straight on in mid-air, I might was well bet at a casino than rely on the guy [:-censored]ing dying. And even if he does take damage, grenades' damage is so variable, you're still gambling. So in the end, no matter how [:-censored]ing good you might be with grenades, it doesn't do jack [:-censored] for you.

I'm so sick of Soldat's [:-censored]. Seriously. [:-censored]. Just [:-censored].

Sorry for my rant, but I get easily pissed off these days. Gee, I wonder why. (Whew, that's a lot of pretty little red censored men. What are we, kids here? Who need to be protected from the big bad F-word?)

frogboy
February 9, 2004, 9:51 am
/me imagines a crazed Mexican angrily eating a banana... woah... its Roy!

Geez, do you go on australian 56k servers or something? Because even with lag, I can kill people by nading them.

Roy
February 9, 2004, 10:01 am
quote:Originally posted by frogboy
/me imagines a crazed Mexican angrily eating a banana... woah... its Roy!

Geez, do you go on australian 56k servers or something? Because even with lag, I can kill people by nading them.

QUE?!

Anyways, I'm calmer now (relatively). Seriously though, whenever I throw a grenade, on just about any server, 50% of the time the grenade will turn out to be useless. I've lost games because of this. AIIII.

palloco
February 9, 2004, 10:11 am
Yeah man, you discovered the point of soldat 1.2. Learn how not to be a noob.

ClanKwH
February 9, 2004, 10:38 am
the only new gay thing in soldat is that you fly 405453405340950349593405340 miles by a single shot!!! now that sucks it aint realistic

Aquarius
February 9, 2004, 10:42 am
It is not realistic, but it is cool, so STFU.

frogboy
February 9, 2004, 10:45 am
Yeah, its the official sport of Soldat now.

SuperKill
February 9, 2004, 11:12 am
i dont get it ;\ nades work for me

Hercule Poirot
February 9, 2004, 1:47 pm
aaarggh i only hate nade suicides for example today on run map i take flag started running on down with 3 guys chasing so i turn back started to throw nades and voila killed myself...

Weed
February 9, 2004, 2:12 pm
more whiners... whining bout nades is like whining bout the other weaps...

sqweek
February 9, 2004, 7:49 pm
The thing about nades... as far as I know they aren't affected by anti-lag, so you have to lead with them.

CardBoardWarrior
February 9, 2004, 8:18 pm
I can always kill with a nade... practice, dude...

AerialAssault
February 9, 2004, 8:56 pm
nades are fine...

palloco
February 9, 2004, 9:15 pm
quote:Originally posted by CardBoardWarrior
I can always kill MYSELF with a nade... practice, dude...

BMF
February 9, 2004, 9:35 pm
Roy shut your mouth. Nades are more powerful than ever

Hitman
February 9, 2004, 9:59 pm
Wow! Chill, its just a game!

karmazonpl
February 9, 2004, 11:32 pm
learn to throw them and dodge them

Roy
February 10, 2004, 12:33 am
Huh?

I can throw grenades just fine, so STFU about that. I can dodge grenades just fine, so STFU about that.

What pisses me off is the inconsistency. It's quite obvious when you hit someone with a grenade; their movement is affected by the blast. But even if their movement is affected, they might not even be damaged! And if they are damaged, it's no guarantee that it'd be a killing blow. Meanwhile, if they throw a grenade at you, it seems more likely that you'll be blown to bits instantly. And don't give me that "damage location" crap; I've hit people square in the head with grenades and it was useless, while turning around and getting hit in the legs with one. Guess who died?

It's probably just the servers I play on. But FFS, is it so much to ask for consistency in an online game?

that fuking sniper
February 10, 2004, 12:48 am
Whoever thinks grenades arent good enough really should get better aim. Grenades were always the way they are right now ever since 1.1.0, so get used to it. If I can kill most people I throw nades at with 1 hit, so can you.

karmazonpl
February 10, 2004, 12:58 am
quote:Originally posted by Roy

I can throw grenades just fine... I can dodge grenades just fine...

so why are you complaining if you're good with it ?
granades are easy just as tfs said

Hova
February 10, 2004, 1:39 am
I just dislike the nade suicidies; that's the only downside to them for me.

DeafBox
February 10, 2004, 2:09 am
I kinda understand where Roy is coming from with the inconsistency. Like the nades that go right thro u and kill you without blowing up. Or the ones u step on and kill you without blowing up. But thats soldat.

Dark_Noddy
February 10, 2004, 1:56 pm
quote:Originally posted by BMF
Roy shut your mouth. Nades are more powerful than ever

I agree... or so it seems.. Least for me :)

Only negative thing bout them since release of 12 is that in new version i get nade lag.. Neva experienced it in any other version.. They blow up @ me.. I run and die :/ SUX ^^ But all it takes is getting used to..

sqweek
February 13, 2004, 6:30 pm
quote:And don't give me that "damage location" crap; I've hit people square in the head with grenades and it was useless, while turning around and getting hit in the legs with one. Guess who died?

That matches with my observations - I think a nade to the feet actually does more damage then a nade to the head ;)

I'd like to point out though, that the issue is not nades, but latency. Specifically, the fact that movement is calculated client side but damage is calculated server side (which can result in people being blown away and taking no damage - this happens with the m79 also).

Josh1l6
February 13, 2004, 11:16 pm
quote:Originally posted by Roy
Now, my grenades do [:-censored]. They do less than [:-censored]. They give the guy a boost so he can get away. Meanwhile I die instantly from every single [:-censored]ing grenade I ever come across.

Could it have to do with differing pings? Like if someone has a higher ping grenade's damage will ignore them? This should be balanced, at least to be equally unfair to everyone.

Sometimes I'm just fighting, and I just suddenly die from my own grenade even though I didn't touch the grenade button.