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Matrix style in Soldat? (Was: 'Question')
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bucky_brad
June 1, 2004, 9:21 pm

I was just wondering why people dont want soldat to have anything to do with the matrix? I honestly wouldnt mind but i know the majority of the forum will reject it, why?
IMO doing a back flip in bullet time while my AK fires of 30 rounds at a incoming group of enemies seems pretty cool =P.


btw this is not a suggestion, so i guess it goes in the general disscusion.

Sticky
June 1, 2004, 10:34 pm
Because this isn't Max frikkin' Payne.

773D
June 1, 2004, 10:37 pm
We regret to inform you that your opinion has been rendered invalid.

BlackSpear
June 1, 2004, 11:05 pm
we all came here becouse we loved the kick ass gameplay of soldat as it is and always was!
not some soldat/matrix blend

Dathker
June 1, 2004, 11:28 pm
becuase some game designers like to be original... and not copy off of everything that they see and get sued

FliesLikeABrick
June 1, 2004, 11:57 pm
matrix.... in any game? *shudder* the matrix trio is meant for movies, not games. esp not soldat.
-Brick

bucky_brad
June 2, 2004, 6:50 am
ok fair enough, i was hoping for a little more explanation than that but meh,
btw brick have you played sepcialist? [:-censored]ing awsome and full of the matrix.

so you dont want it in there because you want soldat to stay original?

Element_101
June 2, 2004, 8:49 am
I personlaly wouldnt mind seeing a matrix version dispite what the rest of you think

ssjjackass
June 2, 2004, 9:01 am
matrix style would definatly slow the speed of the game. its a fast paced action 2d shooter that doesnt need slow mo.

Deleted User
June 2, 2004, 10:05 am
It doesn't even work on online game. [gaysmiley] -_- [/gaysmiley]

Jap_man
June 2, 2004, 10:18 am
buckybrad, i play the specialists, it's pretty cool but a matrix style of soldat wouldn't turn out too good, not to mention "unoriginal".

Meandor
June 2, 2004, 11:57 am
oh oh we already have the bullet time! It's called lag! wooo.
die

Deleted User
June 2, 2004, 12:46 pm
A Matrix/Soldat-clone? Yeah right... The Matrix was a


FAILURE


in doing some cool trilogy.

So, NO WAY. Ever.

Chakra
June 2, 2004, 1:36 pm
I did once suggest a kind of 'bullet time' mode, where everyone still moves at normal speed, but all projectiles go very very slow. Just as a bit of server-command style fun.

..Just imagine the LAW's flying around at 1/2cm a second..


Still, whatever good ideas there is to take from matrix, I doubt you could incorporate it easily or in respect of the original action in soldat.

Weed
June 2, 2004, 1:42 pm
OMFG people, get over the [:-censored]ing matrix and the [:-censored]ing lotr.
no one cares if you have a secret fantasy of being neo or frodo
arrrrrrrrrrr, those ultra nerds piss me off.

*me goes off punching things on his way out.

bucky_brad
June 2, 2004, 1:53 pm
O_o not happy eh weed? I dont really want the matrix i just think it would be nice to add things such as bullet time and what ever type of dodging, not because it was in the matrix but because it would add a nice component to soldat. btw who said anything bout lotr?

would you still not want it if it wasnt in the matrix? only reason i reference it to the matrix is because it is an easy way to explain it.

Askur
June 2, 2004, 1:59 pm
I'm just waiting for someone to suggest a LOTR/Soldat crossover ("OMFG, I was just sleeping when I thought of this crazy idea!! Soldat with CROSSBOWS!! And OLLIPHANTS for veihicles!! AnddwarvesandelvesandhobbitsesandoooohIlikehobbitses*outOfBreathException*..."). Someone will eventualy do this.. I'm telling you.

bucky_brad
June 2, 2004, 2:19 pm
so what you think about bullet time and such in soldat Askur? you normaly have a pretty good reason to think what you think.

Askur
June 2, 2004, 2:49 pm
I'm thinking that if Michal wants to do a matrixSoldat he can do that. I'd definetly try it to se what he'd made of it.
However, that's not Soldat. I don't want to see Soldat made into something Soldat isn't. And matrixSoldat is just like that topic about importing movements from "N" into Soldat. The game wasn't made for it. We try to improve the game, not change it.

Besides, what's the fun about all the shots slowing down? It's rather daft really...

DeMonIc
June 2, 2004, 3:16 pm
Hmm... I say, what if u had a power up, that would create an invisible sphere in a 6 foot diameeter around u, and everything besides u getting in that sphere would slow down?That would solve the matrix problem.heh..Those who don't like it would simply shut down powerups.

Kazuki
June 2, 2004, 3:41 pm
When I think about it, speed changes in Soldat would be fun ^_^ Like a power up, or a switch or something. Rawr. Anyway, no, I don't think this is a very nice idea for Soldat. With all due respect, it just wouldn't fit in, do you know what I'm saying?

Weed
June 2, 2004, 9:16 pm
WANT FREAKIN BULLET TIME?
make you pc work like a piece of horse [:-censored], that way you frame rate will drop under 10.
thats bullet time!

*me keeps punching the air and some other forum members.

Hitman
June 2, 2004, 10:48 pm
quote: Soldat is a unique side-view multiplayer action game. It takes the best from games like Liero, Worms, Quake and Counter-Strike and gives you fast action gameplay with tons of blood and flesh. Soldiers fight against each other on 2D battle arenas using a deadly military arsenal. This is what multiplayer was invented for.Soldat was never meant to have slow motion moves and dives, it's just not, as Askur said, Soldat. The whole fun in Soldat is the fast paced action and quick thinking. Having the ability to slow down Soldat would just make it, quite frankly, crap.

Plus, I don't see how, apart from playing offline, it would work. The only way I see it working is as a bonus, and the person in question has this power and everybody else would just slow down. This would be nothing far from annoying. At least in Predator, Flame God, etc, you have a chance, but this would just make it stupidly easy, and frustrating for others. It wouldn't involve any skill, it would just be about who gets the bonus first.

Deleted User
June 2, 2004, 10:58 pm
Bonus --> Pick up box, you gain 3 seconds of bullet time. Everyone else slows down but you move at normal speed, except your bullets are also slow.

I would like to see that.

Skate4Razors
June 2, 2004, 11:57 pm
I don't get why everyone has to type the same thing over and over![:-banghead][:-banghead][:-banghead] We get it, it would suck! DONE![:(!][:(!][:(!]

Toni_Cicerelli
June 3, 2004, 12:49 am
I think it would be all right if Michal made I side project with the Soldat engine. Not Soldat but along the same lines in appearance.

deejii
June 3, 2004, 1:17 am
mur hate kill etc.. end

Element_101
June 3, 2004, 2:29 am
quote:Originally posted by Hitman
quote: Soldat is a unique side-view multiplayer action game. It takes the best from games like Liero, Worms, Quake and Counter-Strike and gives you fast action gameplay with tons of blood and flesh. Soldiers fight against each other on 2D battle arenas using a deadly military arsenal. This is what multiplayer was invented for.Soldat was never meant to have slow motion moves and dives, it's just not, as Askur said, Soldat. The whole fun in Soldat is the fast paced action and quick thinking. Having the ability to slow down Soldat would just make it, quite frankly, crap.

Plus, I don't see how, apart from playing offline, it would work. The only way I see it working is as a bonus, and the person in question has this power and everybody else would just slow down. This would be nothing far from annoying. At least in Predator, Flame God, etc, you have a chance, but this would just make it stupidly easy, and frustrating for others. It wouldn't involve any skill, it would just be about who gets the bonus first.


Actually you dont have a chance when they have flame god Hitman

DeMonIc
June 3, 2004, 2:51 pm
But in team games, u kill em easy.Yup, soldat is really 2 fast for bullet time.The power up idea that slows ALL movement xcept ures in a decent distance, would be a crappy joke.Bonuses are pretty much weak, and no doubt that this would be overpowered by the quick thinking if players as well.

Hitman
June 3, 2004, 2:57 pm
quote:Actually you dont have a chance when they have flame god HitmanYeah you do. I'm not sure in which mode it is, but I think in some you can actually kill them, it's happened to me before. If not, you can always run, flames don't have a very long range..

Deleted User
June 3, 2004, 3:25 pm
In team games you aren't invincible with Flame God.

Chakra
June 3, 2004, 3:46 pm
I honestly do think it would be a nice secret mode that only an admin can slap on.

Nothing fancy, just the simplicity of all the bullets and projectiles moving at stupidly slow speeds, while everyone is running around as normal. Just for a laugh.

Take a minute to soak in the slight hilarity of it all, while also recognising the new challenge; diving in and out of bullets as they take up temporary position in mid air. LAW's will zimmer along like a slow moving mine. An MP5 could be dived into, weaving through the folley of bullets. A barret could actually be dodged!

'tis stupid. Which is why I approve.

DeMonIc
June 3, 2004, 4:24 pm
Chakra's idea: rofl :D

Askur
June 3, 2004, 6:13 pm
Chakra.. why would you waste time and mental health on coding something stupid?

Deleted User
June 3, 2004, 6:55 pm
Askur: Because it would be very funny [:D]

Kazuki
June 3, 2004, 7:42 pm
Actually, when you think about it, it could be very challanging and extremely fun at the same time. If a special map was made so that there wouldn't be so much space, it would be really fun just jumping around to avoid bullets, and if it were survival mode, the last one standing wins (obvious enough). But it would be very fun to just stand there and jump as bullets are comming your way. It would actually be wise to not shoot anything, because then you are just creating more bullets in the map, which you will have to dodge later. This would make the chainsaw a godly weapon >_>

Edit: Think of the bullets as slow-moving spikes in midair, and every one you hit does damage to you.

SERIAL KILLeR
June 3, 2004, 7:59 pm
Could be really fun to play in slowmotion but it shouldnt be an powerup but a command like chakra said.
Like in the game sticksoldiers.
And it doent have anything to do with the matrix.


Niff
July 4, 2004, 6:15 am
Maybe like.. doing backflips and acrobatics instead of slow motion? -_-

lieroguy
July 4, 2004, 6:37 am
My opinoins:
1: Programming such a thing into a game for a fully integrated multiplayer that would be both wiledly and have solid gameplay effects would be phenominally difficult (so most that would exist would suck badly), and generally simply not worth the time that could be spent adding more nessescary features.

2: Soldat's motif is specifially catered to the war and guts thing. Bullet time wouldn't have much of a place.

palloco
July 4, 2004, 9:07 am
Is it my impression or only barretards support this?

svLuke
July 28, 2004, 8:52 pm
Matrix in soldat?

Hell ye, i got some for you all who haven't seen my movie yet:
http://www.selfkill.com/webv3/content/sd_redir.php?id=131

And yes, im advertising my movie =)


ethanlee29
July 29, 2004, 3:56 am
WOW!!!!!! is that u in the movie???!!!!!! whoever it is that guy is really good. and all done withough cheating???!!!!

Sekushi
July 29, 2004, 4:22 am
no, he used a hack, don't believe him.

IBT
July 29, 2004, 2:43 pm
i myself ike the idea, but soldat is strictly multiplayer (sure you can play alone with bits, but that puts up a server) so everyone must be on the same timeline, is 1 person has bullet time, everyone else must notice it, or the only guy going slowmo would be 1 easy target

svLuke
July 31, 2004, 5:04 pm
ethanlee29: IT's me allright, and almost all tricks are done in public servers, and without vests or such bonuses.

Sekushi: Belive what u wanna believe, i don't cheat and I don't use bonuses or anything like that in the movie.
And if u still saying that i use "hacks", please tell me where and how I use them in the movie. Let's have a discussion and stop the false accusing.



N1nj@
July 31, 2004, 5:28 pm
lol, sekushi is just joking around, like always [:P]