No, I want this to be as minimal about the barret and M79 as possible, which is pretty impossible... But meh.
Strangely enough, i'm getting rather bored of Soldat, I like it and all, and I would register if I wasn't lazy, but I played on Iinet #3 today; Full of M79ers and Barret people... It's all "Oh hello *spawnkill*"
Whole clans are using the M79 and Barret... Is anyone else getting this bored of Soldat?


*Think that this thread might be commented on it's stupidity*

Everybody in A.B.A. is getting bored and many ppl out there are brother!

I expect this topic will be locked. Conversations about the Barret are a no-no.

I won't lock this as long as you don't start bashing weapons or try to change the weapon balance.

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Nothing left to say mate...just a matter of getting someone to listen.

I just know this is gona be another flame war... Or hitmain will lock it.. Look at all those locked topic! WTF's up with ppl! Post such idiotic stuff!

ya, I am getting bored of Soldat too, but is not because of those reasons.

I haven't really played Soldat in about 2 months... but I wish I could (my internet is too inconsistent to be playable where I'm living over the summer). Soldat is the only game that I can think of that I've never really become tired of. It's been almost 2 years since I first played it and I still love it. I did go through an "extreme anti-barret" stage for awhile that almost turned me off of Soldat, but I got over it.

Play realistic.
And don't start talking about ruger.It is slightly more powerfull, but if ur good at manouvering u can take a rugerrer on w anything.

Go to private servers.

Soldat is getting weird to me because each day I play worst and worst instead of improving.

I play Realistic mode, just in Australia, theres no Australian servers, although I like to play with my friend Jap_Man he only plays on public... It's getting rather boring.

yeh i sorta left soldat cos of all these clans using snipers. It just aint what it used to be :-/

hey i remember jap_man, he came to my Realistic Survival server 3 days ago.

Really :O. It's a small world after all....
I hardly ever remember which private servers i go onto. But I do like small private servers better than huge public servers like iinet. I tend to find less people playing with berrets in private servers and no people playing with berrets in most realistic servers.
But then again there's not that many people who play realistic mode...

I think soldat needs a series of new guns and well more new stuff to keep it alive else i think it wil be dead in about 10 months

a new series of guns? Nah, that probably will kill soldat quicker.
Firstly almost all the weapons have been around since the first version (o.9.4 i think) and changing the weapons will turn soldat into a totaly different game most likely making many leave the game altogether.

i dont say tyo change em
but to add more guns

oh sorry, I heard you wrong.
Well I guess a few new guns may give the game a bit more of an exciting feature, maybe a few more secondary weapons or something like that would be a good idea. But the real question is: will michal choose to add more weapons.

I really don't know, but well the geame really needs some upgrading and new stuff in to it cause it will really die if he does not do anything, i play soldat like about a year and hal fnow and it really is getting boring

I seense... I seense... WHINE!!!!!! :D

Barret ain't a lame weapon, you need to know how to move, if the barreter miss one shot hes screwed!

Old story Nedech. Try to pay attention.

some weapons are only overpowered when others are removed, play on an no barrett server and everyone uses m79s, remove them both and another weapon will dominate

id like to see a new weapon list if only to refresh an otherwise great game, however in a server with all weapons enabled things are pretty much "balanced" and should not be screwed around with too much

did you think you would be playing this game forever?
any game you play you eventually get sick of it for one reason or another.

Things do seem to be slowing down. I wish at least one of the sugestions would be put it.

Hey, do something else, then play soldat a bit. moderation. if u play soldat till ur sick, u will get bored. play like once a month and then do other things. works for me. then barraters n m79ers just become a vauge quirk, not a ruining feature

i'm hungry... what should be done is where theres like a mode or something that every time you die you get a random weapon. and random sec to...

Yeah, I've been playing a little over a year now, and mostly played in public servers. I agree it's getting pretty boring. That's why I joined a clan! Lol, [UC]. Btw, I've played with Micheal, but I can't really remember how good he was.

Play a different game...?

Soldat is one of these games that, if you play to much it gets boring FAST, but if you play, maybe, once or twice a week for an hour, it stays fun! Barrets and M79s are no problem....to me at least. Snipers are always a poopy pain, but if you move in pairs or groups, he can't kill all of you, so if one of you die your allies will take him out.

But Soldat is a classic game, one that will never die.

Think of poor Mikhail reading this... How everyone has started hating his game...

I haven't played Soldat for months, but only because I'm too busy writing!

quote:Originally posted by DT
i'm hungry... what should be done is where theres like a mode or something that every time you die you get a random weapon. and random sec to...


Go eat some food then think about how sensible that is. :P

quote:Originally posted by Marine
Soldat is one of these games that, if you play to much it gets boring FAST, but if you play, maybe, once or twice a week for an hour, it stays fun!

not really, maybe thats how it is with you.

quote:Barret ain't a lame weapon, you need to know how to move, if the barreter miss one shot hes screwed!


A good barreter doesn't miss the first shot , that makes it overpowerd . It isn't THAT hard either to hit with a barret

mielos, the sniper rifle is an m82a1, a .50 calibre, it's a freaking anti tank sniper rifle, it aint overpowered

are people still talking about barret...?

then why are we using a damn anti tank sniper on a soldier from 1 inch away

quote:Originally posted by SuperKill
quote:Originally posted by Marine
Soldat is one of these games that, if you play to much it gets boring FAST, but if you play, maybe, once or twice a week for an hour, it stays fun!

not really, maybe thats how it is with you.


Actually, 3 replies up someone said the same thing. Yes really.

quote:Originally posted by n00bface
then why are we using a damn anti tank sniper on a soldier from 1 inch away


Apparently thats how Michal made the game...

quote:Originally posted by Spookyfish
Think of poor Mikhail reading this... How everyone has started hating his game...

I haven't played Soldat for months, but only because I'm too busy writing!



Hating? No way, this game is amazing... Perhaps getting better might be an option ;) I got worse after I stopped playing, trying to fix my computer's corrupt memory, but it's still corrupt and i'm not getting any better...

I hate to beat the bush here, but if you find it boring, just play in spurts. I can't keep myself to play soldat for longer than 10 minutes, but its that way for any game now.

quote:Originally posted by Marine
quote:Originally posted by n00bface
then why are we using a damn anti tank sniper on a soldier from 1 inch away


Apparently thats how Michal made the game...


SOLDAT BETA TESTING FORUM QUOTE QUOTE TIME!

quote:"I don't understand why you want to use the Barret in mid-air, it's a sniper weapon! Use an auto weapon if you want to make duels in the air"

"I would rather get killed by a sniper 2 screens away than get killed with the Barret from 1/8 of the screen"

- Michal Marcinkowski, 1.2 beta testing
-Stalky's favourite quote, taken from profile.

New maps. The same 5 maps over and over and over and over and over gets boring.

Or maybe some crazy campaign with missions with objectives with time limits with fancy ticking clock with flashing LCD screen with red James Bond numbers with a scary "tick tock" to boot, like "blow up tha n00bblasta cuz 1T $UC|<$".

Geez... There I go again.

The only problem with soldat is the people. Last days I had not found any public server with less than 500 ping to me(and I get 300 ping in NA and 200 in Europe), and the passworded ones I joined(say blan or cns) I was kicked ALWAYS because people said I lag or because i use minigun (which any1 know I only use 10% of the time). If they were not intented for 300 pinger I would get ping kicked or if minigun were bad it would be disabled. Too many whiners out there. That is the problem

The soldat community is the absolute worst when it comes to that. Ive never seen so much complaining in game ever before.

quote:Originally posted by palloco
The only problem with soldat is the people. Last days I had not found any public server with less than 500 ping to me(and I get 300 ping in NA and 200 in Europe), and the passworded ones I joined(say blan or cns) I was kicked ALWAYS because people said I lag or because i use minigun (which any1 know I only use 10% of the time). If they were not intented for 300 pinger I would get ping kicked or if minigun were bad it would be disabled. Too many whiners out there. That is the problem
It sounds more like the lack of fast and geographically close servers is your problem. Although the stupid people probably aren't helping, it doesn't sound like they are the true cause of your problem.

It is not that problem, I never had any problem with servers. I can perfectly play in servers like u13, optik's blan's llama's selfkill bazokerzz btk...

quote:Originally posted by Hitman131
The soldat community is the absolute worst when it comes to that. Ive never seen so much complaining in game ever before.

oh, silly silly hitman, i take it you never played counter-strike
when i stopped playing, i had about a 3-8 K-D and they banned me for cheating.

Counter-Strike community is the worst thing ever created, i hate them all and i wish they all die soon.

I've installed a lots of games on my pc and the basic loop is like: install, play 2 weeks, desisntall.

With Soldat, i've installed it and i never never think of desinstalled it, i love this game since the 1st minute i play on it.
SOLDAT IS THE BEST GAME EVER CREATED. Michal Marcinkowski Keep up!!!!! I LOVE U!!

and btw if u guys are tired and bored of beeing killed with barrets, dont be sad about it, im always beeing killed by barrets and i dont complain, caze i like this game.
way better than CS, CS shots are random.. yep thats right its just a random function, now how the hell can u be skilled on a game that the aim is random operated... I HOPE CS DIE AND ALL OF IS COMMUNITY.
and we have ragdolls [:D] where is ragdolls on CS han ?
just die cs'ers DIE ALL!
[:D]

I usually like to play cs over lan for that reason.

"/ too bad this didn't turn very minimal about the B-word/gun. I think it might be the maps, although SOMEBODY *looks at Jap_Man* hasn't been too excited about playing private realistic mode for a while ;)
Perhaps my siggy should be a bit smaller...

omg stop whining, get skill and u will bash every "m79clan" and barrets too (with m79 :P)
or dont play on [:-censored]ed up servers with [:-censored]ed up noobs (damn censoring :>)

Well soldat is a like a war game(sorta) and in war someone snipes the guy next to you and your not gonna say "OMG you cheap barettard. That weapon is for nubs onl... *pow, gets shot while whinning* arg...you son of a !@#$% lifes not fair =["
Most games have an "overrated" weapon. Ex. Halo: Pistal gets whinned about every day.
Plus: If you cant beat them join them. Snipe them back, jeez -_- . If you think its "overrated" use it to your advantage.
You could also just make your own game and take out all the weapons you hate out of there.
I hope everyone is happy now >=]

Lazehboi did not read teh signature and avatar rules...
20kb max on both

quote:Most games have an "overrated" weapon
Is that an argument for the barret to keep this way? so that soldat has something unbalanced too and is like all others! YAY!

quote:Originally posted by Hitman131
The soldat community is the absolute worst when it comes to that. Ive never seen so much complaining in game ever before.

Have you ever played CS? If not, do so, and change the post [8)]

I tall ya! After the new version comes out there will be such things as Rugertads.... OH OH! Let's start right now! A.R.A! Oh w8... I use ruger too... Zoray!

lol at droopy, there will always be whiners, but comon you train in one gun, act like me, love all guns, don't whine train all guns be an average player no pro with one gun and whiner on other guns

1.2.0c = perfect version.

quote:Originally posted by Denacke
quote:Most games have an "overrated" weapon
Is that an argument for the barret to keep this way? so that soldat has something unbalanced too and is like all others! YAY!

No, you arnt getting the point -_-
Im saying there will always be a weapon whinned about in everygame and you cant help about it or do anything about it.

thats what I said

*sighs* B-Thread factor: 1
Anyway, I might look at this race servers, they seem funny.
I have also found that Soldat is a great way to get rid of angst. Whenever I feel like crap, I play Soldat. Thanks for the suggestions.

soldat is more of a novolty (sp?) game. Its halarious but wil never be famous like 3d games (its not meant to be, something they do wrong is graphics over gameplay)

I rarely find skilled barret users...which is why I easily kill them

In the leagues, and Scrims, I play in or the Servesr I play in (blans, Llamas, etc.) people rarely use the barret because they know it ruins the fun in the game. There is the odd Barret user, here and there, but from what I have heard in the Beta the barret is only accurate on the ground, where it's meant to be shot.

Nothing is wrong with using the Barrett, unless you just use that all the time. The odd user here and there is a sniper, and thats good, we need snipers in Soldat.

But the barrett can be accurate anywhere, with a skilled user.

quote:Originally posted by LazehBoi
No, I want this to be as minimal about the barret and M79 as possible, which is pretty impossible... But meh.
Strangely enough, i'm getting rather bored of Soldat, I like it and all, and I would register if I wasn't lazy, but I played on Iinet #3 today; Full of M79ers and Barret people... It's all "Oh hello *spawnkill*"
Whole clans are using the M79 and Barret... Is anyone else getting this bored of Soldat?


*Think that this thread might be commented on it's stupidity*


sorry... may have been me :$

*self proclaimed m79 whore*

just for the record, overrated means not as good as everyone says it is. barret is overpowered, not in the sense that it does too much damage, but its advantages are not balanced well by disadvantages. if the barret were overrated no one would complain about it. HK has obviously got his words mixed up

heh...*cough* off topic? weapon balance *cough*

anyway... yeah.. it does get boring... when i play for a day straight and play with leet people.. and always get owned... yeah it hurts inside :'(

I'm not always losing, but i'm not always winning, i'm usually winning when i'm not playing with clan members xD

Apart from that, I don't play Soldat as much as I used to, but it's a good thing to do when I need to chill, or when I feel like killing someone. >=D

Beep.

Edit:

quote:Originally posted by KroBa
sorry... may have been me :$

*self proclaimed m79 whore*

Funny, I doubt it, though. :<

quote:Originally posted by BARON
the barret is only accurate on the ground, where it's meant to be shot.


sorry but, can you name one rifle that's ment to be shot when you're not on the ground ? rofl.

SK's got you there!

quote:Originally posted by SuperKill
sorry but, can you name one rifle that's ment to be shot when you're not on the ground ? rofl.
Uh? Maybe those integrated in the turrets of the tanks or helicopters?

there are no helicopters in soldat :<
and 'turrets' arent 'rifles' :/

Dont take the barret out of the game or the m79 or law, i do admit getting annoyed when the whole server is using it, but theres nothing i like more then watching them miss with there weapon and then start runnign in the opposite direction while i mow them down with a mp5 or deagles. !!!:}!!

quote:Originally posted by SuperKill
quote:Originally posted by BARON
the barret is only accurate on the ground, where it's meant to be shot.


sorry but, can you name one rifle that's ment to be shot when you're not on the ground ? rofl.


Well, I can imagine someone jumping while shooting an automatic weapon, but not someone jumping while precisely using a sniperrifle. See, a barret is a sniper rifle, and thats why it should be a defensive weapon. But due to its unbalanced advantages, almost everyone goes assaulting with it. Sure the M79 is strong too, but you need more aim than just placing the crosshait slightly above your victim, it doesnt have the range of a barret, nor has it a scope or such fast bullets. It does have areal damage, but that can also be a problem. If you shoot someone near to you, you at least get hurt or even die. Theres no matter of distance to the barret.

Either take some accuracy from the barret when the player is in the air, or replace it with a weapon with a somehow different concept.

Im getting sick of servers full of barreting newbies, and they do hit quite often, due to the easyness in handling of this weapon. If there are many m79 users, its far more easily to outskill them then against barretards.

quote:Originally posted by grand_diablo

Well, I can imagine someone jumping while shooting an automatic weapon, but not someone jumping while precisely using a sniperrifle.

you can imagine.. that's cute. you're probably too deep in your own dream world, and thinking automatics could be somewhat usefull if you shoot them in air. "yea ok".
just cut it out with the reality bullsh!t.. you can fly with a minigun the same way you fly with a barret.
and your whole little theory is so wrong its unbeliavble, "placing the crosshair above your victim" oh shup up.. must i 1v1 the whole forum community to prove my point ?
believe me people are sick of you whiners aswell.

I did not said turrets are rifles, turrets have rifles. And if you are talking about soldat all weapons but barret/law are meant to be fired on air.

if someone can host a server that had no barrets for m79 then their would be no problem

Whatever SK, CTF is plauged with Barrets, there's no way around, nor denying, it. It's an easy weapon to use considering it's Pro/Con spectrum.

SK's got a good point..

quote:Originally posted by Captain_Jimbo

Whatever SK, CTF is plauged with Barrets, there's no way around, nor denying, it. It's an easy weapon to use considering it's Pro/Con spectrum.

oh yea there's a way.. i've been playing in ctf servers without using barret even once the last week (played since some time..) and had no problems at all, even when i was in servers that has alot of barret users.

We are in awe of you.

try "i dont know what to say because i know he is right".

how about... if u dont like barrets or M79 (neither do i) just disable them from your game.. [:P]

Thats one way to a SOLDAT OF THE BETTER(r) TOMOROW...

But if ppl want to be whores.. Yeah! Sure! Let them! If they start bitching about how they OWN and n00b-ing, kick them.. And remember! Never kick always BAN! I do this on my server. Oh w8.. I dont have a server!

I dont see what the big deal is about barrets and M79's, If you really dont like them then disable them easy as that.

Thank you for your disable advice, but there are problems with that.
- Most people don't really have a connection that is really fit for hosting a game without problems.
- The servers hosted without barret and/or without barret are very rare, the only ones i've seen are Selfkill's & EF server

Any other advice for us? :(

If it makes you feel better im looking into making iiNet4 no-barrets... although I would prefer people just stop whinging.

Stopping with whining won't make us happier, it'll even make us sadder!

It would be even better if it was realistic, but Mole_Incarnate, have you actually seen the amount of people that use those two guns? While I was playing on Iinet (which I usually am) I was the only person that wasn't using them, seriously, imagine how boring that can get...

If 1 dood uses barrett, no problem.When 90% use it...PROBLEM.Realistic has the same only with ruger.And fall dmg is annoying after a while.

if server has 4 or more barreters...its getting really annoying to play...With realistic though its better, auto's bullets kill faster and that gives me an advantage over barreters.

But dodging is kinda stricted, because off fall damage: you can't pay attention on 6 things at once.Besides, when they're getting pwnz0red, they switch to ruger.Yay.

dont make this a barret thread please! but yeh, the ruger pwnz0rz on realistic, just like most autos, the deagles and the shotty

well this is a barret thread |:

ok... then stop with the barret th- oh, it is about "i hate barreters, this is getting old" thing?

This is totally a barret thread..don't kid anyone. But I agree...nothing makes me more tired of Soldat than hearing people who whore the barret say that they own everything on Gods green earth. Realistic is a very good alternative...love the autos and the ruger because they can quickly do away with the problem. But when not in realistic, deal with it...use the m79 to get rid of the barret. It's the lesser of two evils, in a sense...both guns are damn powerful, but m79 shells don't blaze across the screen in an instant and definately don't have the distance that the barret shells do. I personally enjoy m79 when I'm not using spaz or ak. Learning to be effective with new guns is where it's at.

This is the weapon stats on the U13 Server, you can guess the top-gun!

Name-Kills
Barret M82A1-171508
M79-151060
Grenade-108984
Ruger 77-60524
Desert Eagles-53081
HK MP5-49789
FN Minimi-32950
Spas-12-30469
Steyr AUG-25321
Combat Knife-23813
Ak-74-23760
LAW-18408
USSOCOM-17039
XM214 Minigun-5592
Stationary gun-4781
Hands-4230
Chainsaw-3869
Clusters-0
Flame Bow-0
Flamer-0
Bow-0

Just decided to add it, since this is a barret thread.

I think that the ruger is a bit worse than the barret.
Whole clans/teams using Ruger is very annoying. (BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG-reload-BANG-BANG...)
With a beserker, it quickly turns into hell itself.

quote:Originally posted by The Geologist
I personally enjoy m79 when I'm not using spaz or ak. Learning to be effective with new guns is where it's at.


YES! That's exactly the way it is. You can't help the fact that people like using the barret. Same with the M79. I have to admit, I really hate it when I go into a good server expecting a nice game, and then all I get is an opposing team of M79ers or Barrets. It just makes the game boring. :| The reason these weapons are used so much is because people have different playing styles. For example, I like being able to do damage at almost any time. Others like to do all the damage in on blow, and then run. That's how the game goes. The way you play is based on how you prefer things. The barret and M79 aren't overpowered, they just give most players what they desire.

This is the simplest desire.And there are a lot of simple ppl.
But it's a deadly circle:
Barrett draws m79
m79 draws more m79
IF 1337 dude start pwnin with weapon X
all use X
X draws barrett...

Yeah, getting spawnkilled can be irritating, to say the least, however, it helps you build up skill in running away faster, or retaliating more fiercely [;)]

The problem is the soldier is not fast enough :D
On crowded server it's pretty much
Spawn-bang-spawn-bang-spawn...

If you hate whole clans using M79 or barret, start an own server and turn off those two weapons.
Maybe not a good solution, but it's better than nothing.

quote: If you hate whole clans using M79 or barret, start an own server and turn off those two weapons.
Maybe not a good solution, but it's better than nothing.
The purpose about the whole clan using one weap argument is probably meant for clanwars. At the moment there are no leagues with those 2 weapons not allowed, so making an own server wouldn't really solve anything.

In the right hands, the Ruger is better than the barret.

As long as you all agree that the weapon balance doesn't need to be changed, then I'll agree with you.

quote:Originally posted by Kazuki
As long as you all agree that the weapon balance doesn't need to be changed, then I'll agree with you.
10Points :P

There is no spoon weapon balance problem.
Do I get detention for arguing with that?

I really hope this makes a difference...

Link: Variety

My newest Soldat video. Please, do think about it.

There is no weapon balance problem through power, but some weapons need a bit of tweaking in other ways...
That stuff doesn't matter, though, i'm having alot of fun on the fourth Iinet server.

damn right

Barrets are equal against other ppl in ctf, but they aint balanced in duels. So dont be afraid of barret clans like RTW and Kult cause they can be won by auto clans...

That's exactly the oppposite of what I thoguth, Kein. Baretters are a breeze when they're forced out in the open, in CTF it's a lot easier for them to camp a round. I dunno, I simply answer the question with a question, if a ruger user and a Barret user run into eachother, and the ruger user gets the first shot off and hits the Sniper, but dies anyways, does that make him as deadly as the sniper? (were he using the barret.)

A bit off topic here; I'm interested in your Sig Jimbo...got a link? Info?..

omgomg look what happens when you click here

and anyway barret still needs increased reload time for those lamers that spawncamp with it.

Sure, the movie is just about done, just needs some music and a final edit runthrough. I'll throw in some scenes that are done for a nifty trailer and post a link in the Fan Art thread as soon as I can. *Slowly backs away from people who hate quick off-topic posts*

quote:Originally posted by Denacke
Thank you for your disable advice, but there are problems with that.
- Most people don't really have a connection that is really fit for hosting a game without problems.
- The servers hosted without barret and/or without barret are very rare, the only ones i've seen are Selfkill's & EF server

Any other advice for us? :(


More advice... let me see.
If you dont like people using barret then learn to use it and combat them with it, or pick a weapon and become a freak with it, spas recomened because this gun can be insanley good if used right.

*cough* Deagles, they can kill in two shots if you get good, and they're monsters in Realistic, too.

Deagles rock after mediocre practice, but I think the spas can be used better.

quote:Originally posted by Captain_Jimbo

Sure, the movie is just about done, just needs some music and a final edit runthrough. I'll throw in some scenes that are done for a nifty trailer and post a link in the Fan Art thread as soon as I can. *Slowly backs away from people who hate quick off-topic posts*
Oh...I thought it was like some [:-censored]ing uber remake of Soldat. Good luck with the film :)

quote:If you dont like people using barret then learn to use it and combat them with it
We already have a problem with overusage, And that solution isn't helping it, in the contrary.

Now i am specialized in a weapon but there is almost no way in defeating the when he is at about the same level as me unless i use it myself.

well if u guys were like me and didnt care a [:-censored] about wat weapon does wat... u just got to kill him... i use any gun i dont give [:-censored]...
-wat guy made the first ever anti barret thread? i wonder if he would know things like this start happening....