BUSH WON?! WTF! FU*K YOU BUSH! FU*K YOOOOOUUUUUUU!!!!!! Im outta here. Canada here I come.

^__^ if i lived in the US i would have voted for bush O_O welcome to canada lawl

New zealand for me!

I'm just watching Bush's speech. That [:-censored]ing dork! I bet the elections were manipulated. Could we rename this to 'The Bush Pit'? I mean it's full of [:-censored] and very ugly...

I really don't know how could this happen... again. All I know is the voting system sucks and all those stupid central-american uneducated easy-manipulated redneck bastads voted for Bush. President is as dumb as his voters, eh? Well... USA doesn't seem to deserve a better president...

4 MORE YEARS!!!!!! 4 MORE YEARS!!!!!!

^AND WHY THE [:-censored] IS THIS DUDE BACK?^

quote:Originally posted by -Keinonen-I really don't know how could this happen... again. All I know is the voting system sucks and all those stupid central-american uneducated easy-manipulated redneck bastads voted for Bush. President is as dumb as his voters, eh? Well... USA doesn't seem to deserve a better president...


Piss off.

An opinion is never right or wrong.

Keinonen, you shouldn't judge a whole country from the attitudes of some people... If I did that i'd be a Finnish hating prick because of your attitude to everyone else.

what do you think that kerry would have done better than bush?

quote:Originally posted by The Geologistquote:Originally posted by -Keinonen-I really don't know how could this happen... again. All I know is the voting system sucks and all those stupid central-american uneducated easy-manipulated redneck bastads voted for Bush. President is as dumb as his voters, eh? Well... USA doesn't seem to deserve a better president...


Piss off.
This is the most intelligent post in this thread by miles.

Edit: Ok, the two after it are good too.

heh, bush has the reputation here of beeing a complete idiot... I bet almost everyone in the Netherlands would vote for kerry :D
personally, i havent got any problems with bush, really...

quote:Originally posted by Cookie.what do you think that kerry would have done better than bush?
everything

I apologize to everyone else in the world :P

But I live in Washington, which did go for Kerry so neh

Minnesota went for kerry too.

quote:Originally posted by -Keinonen-I really don't know how could this happen... again. All I know is the voting system sucks and all those stupid central-american uneducated easy-manipulated redneck bastads voted for Bush. President is as dumb as his voters, eh? Well... USA doesn't seem to deserve a better president...
I know how it could happen. More than 50% of Americans voted for Bush and he won more than the required 270 electoral votes (will probably end up with 286). The voting system of an electoral college is just fine and didn't matter anyway since Bush won the popular vote as well as the electoral vote.

Im so sad. Kerry had the lead for so long...better start sending in my army registration form now...

Well, since at times, I'm a rabid conservative.... I pose one question to all of you, who seem to hate him, just for the sake of discussion, I guess.... What was so great about Kerry? what did you like about his polocies? what makes kerry an advantage over bush? ( barring any opnion-based answers, I'm looking for factual analysis here, not " well bush is dumb", or "bush is ugly" )??

Discuss.

Here's an idea. Maybe the fact that Bush won should'nt be gruffed about by all of the young cavaliers in this room (forum). Maybe we should swallow our personal grievances in the name of democracy and realize that he won fair and square by a means that is by no means foreign to America. Kerry conceded before the election was called anyway, so it would seem that he has gracefully accepted defeat.

His followers should adhere to such a dignified example rather than dwelling on the example set by the previous candidate.

If anyone still has a problem with Bush serving another term, than perhaps they should not ask themselves and others like them, but someone of a more objective and learned position as to why it is that they feel that way.

Just some humble advice from someone who would like to keep the peace and prove that being Texan does not necessarily make you a dumbass. Thanks.

Democratic strategist Elaine Kamarck said the idea of not changing horses in midstream helped Bush win.

"I think it probably was the desire of people in uncertain times to stick to the person they know best ? that is always an incumbent advantage," she said. "There's a lot of insecurity about the world in which we live today ? inertia does win, particularly when people aren't really sure what the world's going to look like." - fox news

I just hate Bush more than i hate Kerry.

Heres an example of a flip-flop for all the conservative extremists. I did support Bush at one time, but then, i did some research, read about what kerry supported and opposed, learnt the effects bush's term has had on this country, then i supported kerry. and honestly, i dont see how anyone who does the research could possibly support bush.

Kevith I will fight you tooth and nail that the electoral college is a system that is far out of date and is anything but "just fine". Though, you are right in terms of this election. Bush won the popular vote too.

I wanted them both to win [8D]. Bush so I could laugh at liberal hippie b1tches (no offense anyone [;)]) and Kerry because I think that he deserved a term, Bush already had his time.

Well... I guess nothing can be done about it now. Might as well try to get used to this. I'll make Weed happy and say that I understand nothing about it.

Though, to Keinonen, for someone who goes against the rights of a community and forces himself through the freedom-protecting laws, you sure seem to have a nice, big, bullsh1t lobe attached to your brain.

quote:Originally posted by AlamoI'm just watching Bush's speech. That [:-censored]ing dork! I bet the elections were manipulated. Could we rename this to 'The Bush Pit'? I mean it's full of [:-censored] and very ugly...

ROFL..!
Rename it to the bush pit, DNA! :P hahahahaha

quote:Originally posted by _Mancer_New zealand for me!


dont even think about it...

I'm anti-war. So I suppose this is a no-brainer for me. Kerry was in several peace groups during the vietnam times and I respect him for that.

Bush on the other hand declared war on the sovreign nation of Iraq. I've been in a few demonstrations against this war and will never change my stance (so don't bother with "war is necessary sometimes...".)

Yay!

It's not that I'm pro Bush...
I'm just anti Moore.
And anti "I'm twelve but I'm so politically informed since I watched Farenheit 9/11 and wear this 'not my president' shirt, that I cant help but say that Bush is like totally dumb" kids, you see these days.

Bush > You

i say we shoulnd't talk about politics online

quote:i say we shoulnd't talk about politics online

We always have been talking about it. For the last couple of debates and long before that. It always ends up this way. 'cept this time we have a republican who can defend himself and provides legible arguements, so I'm going to play by his rules.

http://217.160.163.211/globalvote2004/

quote:Originally posted by LazehBoiAn opinion is never right or wrong.

Keinonen, you shouldn't judge a whole country from the attitudes of some people... If I did that i'd be a Finnish hating prick because of your attitude to everyone else.


Why would you hate our president ;_;
She doesn't even have as much power as prime minister has
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Besides she goes to dancing lessons and reads Harry Potter books ;)

This is true


You can laugh now

Baka...he never mentioned a thing about your president. He's talking about the way you assume things and judge a whole country based on the actions of part of that countries people. Learn to read.

i love it how european mother [:-censored]ers hate bush so much.
i wonder why...? is it because he has the balls to do things without asking the UN, or in case of the europeans the EU? is it because he made your soldiers go to iraq? why the hell do you want an army if they wont see any action? [:-censored]en [:-censored]ers. anyway, im glad he won, im glad most of the mother [:-censored]ers here can't vote, or they would've chose a quiter for president
oh look at that! his ideals were so strong, that he quited even before the votation was over. what a pussy.

go Bush, he rocks.
reason everyone hates him: he is a president, and he also does sometimes.
normaly presidents only speak and do nothing, woopeedoo.

the thing that pisses me off the most: [:-censored]en european countries going against the war in iraq, going against everything the US does, just coz they are so [:-censored]en jealous of them being the strongest nation in the whole [:-censored]en world while they are a bunch of poor little countries that wouldnt exist if the US wouldnt've helped them in the wars

so as i see it, they are a bunch of ungrateful mother [:-censored]ing socialists.

Rock out weed! for once, I absolutely agree with you ( more or less.... I'm not as extremist, but I can see where you're going)


quote: I'm anti-war. So I suppose this is a no-brainer for me. Kerry was in several peace groups during the vietnam times and I respect him for that.

Then why are you playing a WAR Based video game????
oh, wait, it's ok, because it's a game, right. You stupid liberals, all the same, we stand against (whatever) but we emulate it all the time, and it's ok, because it's a movie, or video game, or somthing else based remotely in fiction. It's ok that it's a movie, or video game because it's not real.... you people ( politically speaking, anyway. I've never met any of you, so I can't make a character judgement based off of that. ) sicken me. Go politically choke on feces.

Am I the only one who doesn't give a [:-censored] about who the president is?

quote:Originally posted by Ville Mk.2Am I the only one who doesn't give a [:-censored] about who the president is?


probably because of your age, and the fact you are too busy with anime to even know that the president of the united states is the one who makes the dicisions for the whole world (up you arses [:-censored]en euros)

Do you enjoy killing? No?

Then why are you playing a KILLING Based video game????
oh, wait, because it's okay to kill in certain situations, right. You stupid conservatives are all the same, we stand against (abortion, killing folks) but we emulate it all the time, and it's okay (death sentence, war on other nations) in real life?! You people (yes, I can make a character judgement because I meet you all over the place) sicken me. Go politically choke on feces.


Now that we have that settled, you understand that we're all hypocrites (except weed, and he's a liar.) Soldat is a well-made game.

lol Weed, Bush went there with the intent of stopping terrorism and didn't manage to. It was such a success it makes me laugh.

quote:Originally posted by Weedquote:Originally posted by Ville Mk.2Am I the only one who doesn't give a [:-censored] about who the president is?


probably because of your age, and the fact you are too busy with anime to even know that the president of the united states is the one who makes the dicisions for the whole world (up you arses [:-censored]en euros)


I don't even watch anime.

time to build a bomb shelter... anyone who wants to join me hurry up... but i get my shotgun

Meandor, do you believe iraq would be better with Saddam in there?
i dont care for the reasons, i only care for knowing Saddam is locked up somewhere where he cant mess with others

quote:Originally posted by The GeologistBaka...he never mentioned a thing about your president. He's talking about the way you assume things and judge a whole country based on the actions of part of that countries people. Learn to read.


My English is bad but I assume you ment me
Here we go

Bush dumb
Rednecks dumb
Half of Americans voted for Bush
---->half of Americans are rednecks
---->half of Americans dumb

Unemployment is high
War in Iraq = sucks
America & Europe divided = sucks
Saddam in the cage = better or worse? Worse...


At least Bush got "elected" this time

Edit: To assume is to make an ass out of you and me, but in this case it's all on your end.

And since your puny little brain will never have the capacity of understanding that remark:

ass-u-me: To ASSUME is to make an ASS out of U and ME, but in this case it's all on your end.

I'm hoping I won't have to explain the second part of that sentence to you too.

quote:Originally posted by WeedMeandor, do you believe iraq would be better with Saddam in there?
i dont care for the reasons, i only care for knowing Saddam is locked up somewhere where he cant mess with others


I was talking about terrorism not Iraq. Anyway, it might be better or worse, i can't tell. I don't live there and i'm not informed enough to tell, so i prefer to say you might be right about Iraq instead of saying something stupid based on what the mass medias say.

Kerry said he'd hunt down the terrorists and kill them. i dont entirely disagree with the war in iraq, i just think that it wasnt as big a priority as the Crisis in Sudan, or what about Iran, they have nuclear capabilities, or what about North Korea. hell, we werent even done in Afghanistan before we invaded Iraq. one acronym can describe the bush administration, its priorities, and the iraq war. SNAFU

haha SNAFU...reminds me of the show i know and love, Family guy

quote:Originally posted by papasurf31And since your puny little brain will never have the capacity of understanding that remark:

ass-u-me: To ASSUME is to make an ASS out of U and ME, but in this case it's all on your end.

I'm hoping I won't have to explain the second part of that sentence to you too.



You're obviously [IMAGE]ing with me but that only makes my view stronger that you are part of that dumbass inbred redneck country. If you US ppl would use your brains more than your d*ck, world would surely be a better place.

Yeah and you finnish people too.

lol "inbred redneck country." It's like the only image of America you have is from watching Jerry Springer.

quote:Originally posted by -Keinonen-


You're obviously [IMAGE]ing with me but that only makes my view stronger that you are part of that dumbass inbred redneck country. If you US ppl would use your brains more than your d*ck, world would surely be a better place.


Newsflash dimwit, you're getting f*cked with because you're making assumptions/insults and claims about a country YOU DON'T LIVE IN and KNOW LITTLE ABOUT. You say we're all rednecks, you say we're all stupid...I say you should follow your own advice and start using your brain, you damn hypocrite. What makes you so much better? You need to learn that America doesn't act as one large, amorphous mass...not everyone wants war, not everyone likes and supports Bush, and not everyone is a stupid redneck. Although with the way you're acting, it doesn't speak too highly of Finnish people. You look at a couple of Americans and assume we must all be rednecks...so can I look at you and assume all Finnish people are stuck up assholes who are quick to judge and dictate what's best for people? So quick to judge and tell everyone what they deserve, how they should act, and what they are...I think I'll go back to what I said to you originally.

Piss off.

quote:Originally posted by The Geologistquote:Originally posted by -Keinonen-


You're obviously [IMAGE]ing with me but that only makes my view stronger that you are part of that dumbass inbred redneck country. If you US ppl would use your brains more than your d*ck, world would surely be a better place.


Newsflash dimwit, you're getting f*cked with because you're making assumptions/insults and claims about a country YOU DON'T LIVE IN and KNOW LITTLE ABOUT. You say we're all rednecks, you say we're all stupid...I say you should follow your own advice and start using your brain, you damn hypocrite. What makes you so much better? You need to learn that America doesn't act as one large, amorphous mass...not everyone wants war, not everyone likes and supports Bush, and not everyone is a stupid redneck. Although with the way you're acting, it doesn't speak too highly of Finnish people. You look at a couple of Americans and assume we must all be rednecks...so can I look at you and assume all Finnish people are stuck up assholes who are quick to judge and dictate what's best for people? So quick to judge and tell everyone what they deserve, how they should act, and what they are...I think I'll go back to what I said to you originally.

Piss off.



If you aint republican, you'd agree with me that it was [IMAGE]ing dumb when half of americans gave four years more to Bush.
I KNOW ENOUGH OF USA AND IT DOESN*T REQUIRE THAT I LIVE IN THERE. Over half of americans don't even know where the f*ck is Finland so lemme enlighten you folk.
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(the yellow marked country)

But seriously, don't have a panic attack. This is just an opinion vs. opinion. No one wins

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Happy four years ;)

quote:Then why are you playing a WAR Based video game????
oh, wait, it's ok, because it's a game, right. You stupid liberals, all the same, we stand against (whatever) but we emulate it all the time, and it's ok, because it's a movie, or video game, or somthing else based remotely in fiction. It's ok that it's a movie, or video game because it's not real.... you people ( politically speaking, anyway. I've never met any of you, so I can't make a character judgement based off of that. ) sicken me. Go politically choke on feces.


Who the [IMAGE] do you think you are? No, no, wait, don't answer that. Here's a better question: How are the effects of gaming and the effects of war even nearly similar? Oh, and hey, while we're at it, let's stop watching television because on almost every channel, there is fighting (you know, heroes and villains, etc), and let's stop playing sports, because people get hurt. Seriously, what the hell are you thinking?

Ville - It's ok, Weed would rather threaten, beat up, and kill others rather than watch TV. He's just superior to us, that's all. He'd rather talk [:-censored], which most of the time he can't back up, rather than agree, because that's what 'pride' is.

I'm trying to refrain from saying too much, because then no one can accuse me about speaking without knowledge...

Edit: Keinonen, think about this for a second. If someone from Finland immigrated to the USA, and became an American citizen, voted, and voted for Bush, you're calling them 'dumb rednecks.' Hmm, maybe you're just not stopping to think. If the Peace Corps somehow took control of the world, you'd be the idiot that says "OMFG, Dumbass tree huggers."

quote:Originally posted by Ville Mk.2Am I the only one who doesn't give a [:-censored] about who the president is?


oh hell no.

...depends if Peace Corps would make the world better place :<....

But as long as ">PC<" are like this:

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...they are treehuggers for sure

lmao...the Simpsons rule :)