OK, so my idea is to have a new game mode, Capture & Hold. It's pretty simple, throughout the map in various locations (specified by the map) there would be white flags. Once a person touches a flag it turns the color of his team. The points would be gained just like bravo team in infiltration, 1 point (for one flag) every couple of seconds. So the more flags a team has control of, the more/faster the team gets points. So if alpha team has control of 3 flags it would be 3 points every couple of seconds.
I'm not sure if this should be for 2 teams or if it should be for more, discuss.

This game mode would have everyone always in constant motion going to capture flags, so camping would be pretty useless unless your team has all the flags.

With only one flag in a cah_map it would be a King of the hill type thing, but with many flags it would be a constant running around frenzy.

Oh yeah, and to make room for another game mode pointmatch should be removed and made into a modifier like advance mode or realistic mode that could be used in any game mode.

um, IMO opinion the idea is pretty good, but why remove pointmatch?

Also, what if some flags are really close to a team's spawn point? I would be almost impossible to capture for the other team. Or perhaps the spawn points will be spread around like deathmatch.

Also Also, the maps would have to be pretty big for a fun game of C&H. And if you don't have enough people, it just wouldn't be fun.

i think its a real good idea!!! and i think making the ppl spawn at random points is also more fun! and also make it so it takes like three seconds while standing in a flag to fully convert it cuz just touching it would be stupid - and if 2 ppl of opposite teams r in the flag (if the flag is neutral) nobody could the get the flag - and when one team stays in the flag for 2 seconds and then leaves, it only takes 1 sec for the other team to take it over. and once it belongs to one team it takes 3 secs for the other team to neutralize the flag and then another 3 secs to convert it. and how many teams should there be...should it b like red vs blue or even with charlie and delta?

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nice idea man, i think having more than 2 teams would be good, but than again if htere r too many ppl playing it, it will be a ususal teammatch, so i dont know. So, i'd say 3 teams would be perfect.
and yea, i think the spawn points should be spread around the map (3-4 spawn points per team) but still not too close to the flags...
good idea

well, I made a menu rendition thingy... (yes, I am really bored)
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heh, i like that idea.

Number of teams and flags (spawnpoints set by mapper) should be customizable though, cause with 2 teams, this could create nice league play :D

quote:Originally posted by zyxstandi think its a real good idea!!! and i think making the ppl spawn at random points is also more fun! and also make it so it takes like three seconds while standing in a flag to fully convert it cuz just touching it would be stupid - and if 2 ppl of opposite teams r in the flag (if the flag is neutral) nobody could the get the flag - and when one team stays in the flag for 2 seconds and then leaves, it only takes 1 sec for the other team to take it over. and once it belongs to one team it takes 3 secs for the other team to neutralize the flag and then another 3 secs to convert it. and how many teams should there be...should it b like red vs blue or even with charlie and delta?


Wow, that's.... confusing. But i liek it, with the exception of the 2 second leave 1 second thing.

Sounds a lot like the territories mode they have in Halo 2 now. Which is a ton of fun in that and will probably be a lot of fun in Soldat as well. Good suggestion

well i dun have halo 2 but i rly like this idea the more i think about it - and i'd say another good minor detail for it would having many flags like for example have like 3 vs 3 red vs blue and have like 8 flags so that it can be a real struggle to win...or maybe have odd unmber of flags so that theres like less of a chance for a tie or w.e... and sry for confusing with my 2 secs + 1 sec = 3 sec = cap thingy...was just an idea if ppl would like it...

Well the number of flags would depend on which map you're playing in, the number of flags would be determined by the author of the map.

I still don't understand why you want to remove pointmatch. There's plenty of room to fit both C%H and Pointmatch there.

It's not removing pointmatch, it's making it into a modifier. Like if you wanted to make a pointmatch server, you would select deathmatch and click the pointmatch modifier (see the screenie). I think this would make pointmatch more commonly used since it wouldn't be filtered out as a seperate game mode. And also, pointmatch could also be used with other game modes if it was a modifier. I like pointmatch and I think this would make it more common.

Great idea! I think it needs a more simpler name though. Like from Halo2 it's Territories like Swazo said, would it be bad if we called it this aswell? =/

Also, how about, when a team captures a white flag, theres a stationary gun nearby, it turns their colour, and only they can you use it? Just and idea.

I also think this would work well with Advance Mode.

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I don't like removing point match though, keep both! \o/

1 of the best idea in long time.

I think this idea is absolutely magnificant..

Cool, I like the idea of moving pointmatch to modifiers. But maybe pointmatch rules should be changed, to simplify it and make it compatible with modes with flags (for example no yellow flag, but if you kill the leader/enemy team leader, you/your team get 2 points and if you kill yourself you/your team lose 1 point).

And I love the Capture & Hold idea.

I kinda like it... i mean gonig nuts everywhere... chaos...

I was really bored in english class, so I drew a c&h map concept "cah_Factory":
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Alpha team would spawn at the left side of the land and also para down from the left side, bravo would be the same on the right side.
This would be one type of C&H map, many flags, crazy running around and close quarters battle. I think the combat would be similar to the fighting inside of inf_fortress.

looks cool but i think the flags are to close together

you dont know that, damnation. You don't know the scale of this map. It might be freakin' huge. But, if it is the size that i think it will be, I think the falgs are at perfect locations (with the exception of a few). Specifically the two upper-left flags and the lower-right flags. But sense one of these cases are on the alpha side and one is on the bravo side of the factory, fairly close to spawn points, I think its pretty well balanced. How much jet-fuel will it have?

heh, I wouldn't worry about the technicalities for now, that was just an example of how this type of map could be :9

rawr i thought i suggested this before :P

but still good idea

yea its a real good idea and i would love to get to the maps right away but - ur right - we should still give good compliments to the game idea and talk about it as if it was the best thing that has ever happened here (so here it goes: ) !

OMG OMG OMG THATS THE BEST IDEA EVER MAN!!!

OMG OMG OMG IT SHOULD SOO BE IN THE GAME!!!

OMG OMG OMG IF IT IS IN THEIR IT"LL BE THE BOMB!!!

You should definatly be able to have more than two teams fighting for the flags, though it would still be fun with just two teams. But it'd be nice if for example, the more teams you have, the less flags there are. That way each team wouldn't just guard there own flag and it basically ends up like a tie at the end. Though that may not be a problem, it's still a possibility.
But as for your suggestion as to having pointmatch being a game modifier, it shouldn't be for every game mode. That wouldn't make too much sense to have it in CTF, INF, or Rambo. You probably didn't mean to say it would be for all game modes, but I thought i'd just point it out.

I think there should be an option (in teammatch too) that would let the admin decide how many teams there should be in the server.

I posted this idea ages ago. Everyone liked it then as much as they like it now. It's practicaly the same. Two teams each with their own flag and some neutral flags scatered across the map. The team that controls the most maps wins. The main base can not be taken. But I liked Duke's name better; control. Dont get me wrong I like capture and hold too.

I hope Michal see's this and impliments it or at least posts if it's possible or not.

There should be only 2 teams, bacause it will be impossible to have, lets say, 4 teams of 6 people cause that make 24...and many servers lag when they have 10/10...

Also, the spawn points will be set as "Flag Spawn" in the map maker;
if the flag is blue, blue players can appear in it...if the flag is red, then red appear in it...

Simple and nice idea!

I hop this it gona be somthing it sounds coooooool

It's like domintaion from UT. Exactly like it actually. The thing that made each of those maps fun was that there were always many ways of getting to any single flag; elevators, teleporters, dropdowns, paths, even some really original and creatives ones using jump pads. Also, the players spwaned just about everywhere, instead of having team specific spawn points. This made it s that there wouldn't be camping on flags closer to your own base, since you wouldn't have a base.

This mode also requires an extra HUD display, telling you which flags belong to which teams.

That's where I got the idea from. I dont know about Michal.

I still like the idea. Think of the strategy!

And the new maps. And minigames(you proboably hate the mode by now. yay).

I think it's a cool idea but in order to play a proper game, you need to have more players than flags in the map. So unless there's only a few flags, you need many players which will lag servers up.

Sounds like a good idea to me, but imagine it with stacked teams, there is no way 4 people are going to able to capture and hold more flags then 6!

Very good idea! I like it!
MUhahaaaa in SURVIVAL!!!!q:P

survival C&H.... heh...

very cool idea
but it'll be good if there's more players than flags
then it would be harder

Well i'll tell oyu what i think of htis it's all good i guess but there is one thing wrong with it.....find it out if not i'll tell you myself

Plaese enlihgten us Ceoy ;)

I like teh idea..but don't remove pointmatch..don't make it a modifier...that would screw a few things...like, if you have yellow flag, and score in ctf...wham, 50 points...

yeh i know so just add C&H as a modifer

C&H couldn't be a modifier because it would need a specific type of map to play in.

ok then just add it like this:
O deathmath O pointmatch O infiltration

O capture the flag O teamatch O rambomatch

O capture and hold

this is a really good idea. they have something a lot like it in Halo2 called territories where you go to a flag and stand there for approx 5 seconds and it becomes yours. its very fun because you have to defend the flag or the other team gets it. anyways, yes this is the best idea in a long time. 10/10 on your idea.

11/10 even though many over games have it... so join the group

This could be implemented as in SW:Battlefront.

Flags are command post... in the begginign of the game the flags are white..when somebody gets closer to it ...it changes color and if somebody of the other team comes near...the color doenst fully change ..the player that wins retains that spot. Those coudl be spawn points. and if all the spawn points/ command post are captured by a team a counter appears of 20 seconds maybe.

nice this is realy working out
and just asjing what code did MM use to make soldat

im pretty sure this is alot like infiltration, or do more people play ctf then that?

sounds like a good idea but it's sorta copying unreal tournament in domination mode :)

replace pointmatch with this cus no1 plays pointmatch

very good sir

quote:Originally posted by wacko101sounds like a good idea but it's sorta copying unreal tournament in domination mode :)
Do not bump up old topics, m'kay? Let's just lock this. ;)

Yes yes yes goooood idea!

soldat need more game modes ( and weapons )

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This sounds The great!! I hope it gets implemented in the new version :D

Good idea, and we can even play this mode with 4 teams

nice...MM didnt post here i think...

Having pointmatch for ANy game type would make no sense. So...for teammatch, only one out of say 18 players would have the flag, and he'd only get points. It only works for deathmatch, and would be sheer hell in INF and CTF.

sounds good i support it but dont bring up old topics

Please, big and mighty M, implement this, please!