Okai, this is not a "i want new weapons in Soldat" kinda thread.
So, what kind of new weapons you would like to see in Soldat?
I know there's enough weapons by now, but still.
And we'rent talk about modding here, but completely new weapons.
Kinda idea thread for MM.

A panda gun.

i have seen a thread like this before... it didn,t end well.
well.

Grenade launcher that launches um nades !

we have m79! what the hell do you call that?

A Galil would be kinda cool. The Galil can hold 200 rounds, and has a scope like the barrett! =P

I want a sprocket launcher

i tha weapon get that weapon, then im stickin' with chess.

quote:Originally posted by Sprocketwe have m79! what the hell do you call that?


I [IMAGE]ing call that an m79. I said a gun that shoots grenades you dumbass.

m79 is a grenade launcher you pussy!

Galil is kinda first "real" idea, but think, we really need Galil? Something more special.

How about a rocket launcher...i know the bazooka is there but, with less power, less speed, less reload time, and as primary weapon.

Think rocket launcher different as LAW/RPG7. Would be pretty nice.

I wouldn't mind Mar77a's idea, just faster fire rate than the barret... But it would make the M79 useless -.-'

quote:Originally posted by Sprocketm79 is a grenade launcher you pussy!


Your not worth a reply but ill give you one anyway. I want a gun that shoots out ACTUAL GRENADES. Teh bullet that comes from m79 doesn't look like a nade now does it? No.

quote:Originally posted by Teh PandaGalil is kinda first "real" idea, but think, we really need Galil? Something more special.

Yes

quote:Originally posted by LazehBoiI wouldn't mind Mar77a's idea, just faster fire rate than the barret... But it would make the M79 useless -.-'


Mmm...i think it would have less reload time than the LAW, but longer than the M79. The only thing is that to fire this weapon you dont have to be moving..lets say this...:

Reload-times:
*M79: 3 sec. (Ripped from the official manual)
*M72 LAW: 9 sec.
*Rocket launcher: 5.5 sec.

quote:Your not worth a reply but ill give you one anyway. I want a gun that shoots out ACTUAL GRENADES. Teh bullet that comes from m79 doesn't look like a nade now does it? No.

you are one sorry son of a b1tch...
what the hell are you doing here anyway?
just be quiet and let the masters handle this.

lol, leave jaz alone, he got his ass kicked on my server :p

Id like all of the guns as they are, or at least replace the barret with the scout off CS, so it takes 2 shots or 1 well placed shot.

But will the "scout" reload faster?

Hey guys. First, be nice to each other. Second, MM won't add any new weapons either... at least i think so.

quote:Originally posted by mar77aBut will the "scout" reload faster?


yes, only a bit

Sprocket: you are an idiot, jaz wants a weapon that shoots grenade out, which doesnt explode right away when made contact.

So, M79 is not a granade launcher, its a "bomb" (makes contact and explodes) launcher...

I donno what kind of new guns there could be. There could always be variations on some auto or something, but it wouldnt be that different. There could always be some wierd weapons, like a laser gun or something but that wouldn't fit into Soldat at all.
So I donno...

i think i know what jaz is trying to say, he wants a gun that shoots frag grenades like the ones you pick up off the ground. not the M79 which shoots 40MM grenades that explode on impact.

i want an orange

i would like to see these guns then:
-2X glock 17
-UMP
-FAMAS G2 Commando
-Galil SAR
-Browning Citori Ultra XS
-Remington Model 7400
-H&K (grenade launcher can't remember the name)
-H&k MSG90
-M-240G machine gun
-M-134
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-Beretta 8000F Cougar Inox
-kitchen knife
-STIHL MS 390
-RPG-7

:)

Those guns you named dont really have anything special about them. Right now Soldat has 14 weapons and all of them have unique abilities, unique ammo size, unique fire rate and unique bullet effect. If we are going to get a new weapon, I want it to be different yet unique, not just another gun.

What about new secondary weapons? That's more exciting to me.

Sprocket, shut the [IMAGE] up please. Thank you.

quote:Originally posted by N1nj@If we are going to get a new weapon, I want it to be different yet unique, not just another gun.

That's the idea. Damnations list is for modding.

quote: Sprocket, shut the up please. Thank you.

quote:Sprocket: you are an idiot, jaz wants a weapon that shoots grenade out, which doesnt explode right away when made contact.


ok..ok...i get it already..
sorry. no hard feelings jaz, hitman and ninj@?

tranquiliser gun - slows opponent - 1 shot.
Revolver - less powerful than DE, but more than socom - reloads one bullet at a time like shotgun.
Sticky LAW - Fires rocket that 'sticks' to walls and people.
shoe - replaces fist - picks up own shoe and smacks people with it - throwable.
mobile cellphone - throwable weapon, radiates surrounding area for 5 seconds causing slow death.
Double barrel shotgun - reload as long as barret, but as short a useful range as minigun. Fires once.
fuel canister - pickup like grenades - replaces grenades - throw at enemy then shoot to cause firey death.
EMP grenade - disables jets temporarily or just within it's field.
Jazzmag/playboy - throwable weapon - throw to ground, causes enemy to look at it every few seconds, hindering aim.
Remote grenades - pickupable, replaces nades - maximum 20 second timer, but will detonate upon push of button.
Empty cardboard box - allows user to crawl around in empty box, hindering enemies ability to find.
Harpoon gun - one shot only, fires like ruger. One shot kill. Secondary.
bombproof armour - pickup, increases resistance to all explosives considerably, but slows you down and makes you heavier.
beartrap - pickup, replaces nade. Leave for max of 1 minute.

Nice, I think the porno mags were a clever touch there Chakra, hehe.

Id like to see some trap weapons as secondary, like beardrap (chakra's idea) or bombs that explode when someone walk past. Or some kind on laser thingy that you place and when someone walks past it, tells team members (or only you) wich way the enemy is (or was at that time).

I like the revolver and EMP.

How about a Hand Cannon.
the cannon ball does not explode but it rolls.
it rolls fast down hills and cuts of the soldiers legs.
that would rock.

id like a automatic weapon with a scope ^_^
and
tranquiliser gun - slows opponent - 1 shot.
Revolver - less powerful than DE, but more than socom - reloads one bullet at a time like shotgun.
fuel canister - pickup like grenades - replaces grenades - throw at enemy then shoot to cause firey death.
Empty cardboard box - allows user to crawl around in empty box, hindering enemies ability to find.
Harpoon gun - one shot only, fires like ruger. One shot kill. Secondary.

quote:Originally posted by N1nj@I like the revolver and EMP.
revolver revolver revolver yes
and a P90


what abaut mines choos granad or mine

Empty Cardboard Box = Gr8 idea.

I actually really like the tranquilizer gun idea.
And even though before I couldn't think of any, now I have an idea:
What if you could toss some sort of explosive that would just sit on the ground or something untill a bullet or explosion hit it?
You could maybe put a few near the flag or something...actually now that I think about it this might be a bad idea, but it's kind of interesting to think about. Maybe as a bonous or something....

EMP sounds good.

Id like to see the colt come back, I know It never will but I can hope.

I've had thoughts about the sword as a secondary weapon:
As a melee weapon, its range would be about the same as the chainsaw. Its rate of fire would be about that of a knife thrust, and it would be swung vertically. Damage would be less than that of the chainsaw, for balance's sake. To really set it apart from the other two weapons, it would have a spot on the blade that would deflect bullets when swung. I don't think the deflection would be overpowered; it would reduce damage taken from a rapid-fire weapon, but not enough to, say, take twice as many shots as you would be able to normally.
This is just stream-of-thought rambling, and I really don't have enough experience to refine it any further, or even know if this is a bad idea.

Edit: To make myself clear: The "spot" on the sword that would deflect bullets would only deflect while the sword is being swung, and the "spot" would change position with the swing. So at the beginning of the swing, it would be aimed above the sniper line, and below it at the end of the swing.

This would probably be a bit too complicated, remember to keep soldat simple, no bullet deflections or certain 'spots'

A P90 and a Phytho 6"

I had an idea exactly like the revolver but forgot to post few months ago. And yes, I think it would pwn.

My sighs:

Barret replaces with a scout, that kills in two = Ruger
&
P90 = FN Minimi

Just use mods and imagine.

(But I still want new weapons, they cant harm you, you can turn them off at options.
Anything new is good, as long you can turn it off)

power of love sprayer :D

I have a P90 insted of mp5 but I want both

I would like an auto Socom, like a Model 18 where it is an auto but the bullets run out real quick, it would be very handy, i got this from Socom II :P Its just an idea.

quote:Originally posted by zoldatI have a P90 insted of mp5 but I want both

then leave the MP5 the way it is and make the styer a P90

NOOOOO CHANGE NO WEAPONS!

and wtf is with all the talk of getting rid of the barret, leave it alone!

also how about a H&K OICW ??

oh btw, OICW = A auto rifle and normal rifle in 1, it could take up both weapon slots or something. instead of the change weapon anim at the minute though, the soldier could have a new anim where he swaps the gun mode.

A personnel-fired napalm grenade launcher. You'd fire it up into the air and it would cause the terrain within (a very small) range to ignite like the flamethrower was being used.

The effect itself would last about 10 seconds, but the gun would take 20 seconds to reload.

Mmm... Napalm.

quote:Originally posted by damnnationquote:Originally posted by zoldatI have a P90 insted of mp5 but I want both

then leave the MP5 the way it is and make the styer a P90
then i have no styer ... lol

ookkk i hate styer so i always shange it to another gun :)

ok :) lol

quote:Originally posted by Teh PandaMmm... Napalm.

I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

This is a stupid idea, but Riot Shield? You could only use certain weapons with it (knife/DE/socom), and it would sorta be like a bullet-proof vest, every time you shoot it, it takes damage, but only protects your front, so people can shoot you from behind.

//.edit
The shield would only be able to take a certain ammount of damage, before breaking, then you would automaticly drop it.. or something.

When in Predator Mode:

Predators Shoulder Cannon. Shots fly without ballistic effekcts and are very deadly but slow reload or so.

Remote bomb :) secondary.. lay 1 at a time cant lay again till other is blown up or you die.. semi visible on ground

quote:Originally posted by zoldatquote:Originally posted by damnnationquote:Originally posted by zoldatI have a P90 insted of mp5 but I want both

then leave the MP5 the way it is and make the styer a P90
then i have no styer ... lol


GOD ZOLDAT, your such a little whinny acc! I'm joking, what I want to see is a huge acc gatling gun thingy, like the one in MGS1, the Raven guy. Man that would own!

Swords... can't throw them but stronger then a knife and faster attack rate to...and can deflect certan weapon bullets...

mabye a box where you would get one or two clips of secondary ammunation. for m79 a namaplm granade, shotgun may got a one big bullet(not sparying and it would kill when it hits body or head). some weapons might get cartage with bigger load, so its bullets would not drop so fast.
and i still would like to see traps as secondary.

First: credit card-launcher WEEHAA!
And seriously the first: Ninja Stars, as secondary!
More range then knife, you can JUST throw it, you have 5, and you can pick them up. And it's bouncing. If its bouncing it hurts, and its bouncing 3-5 and if it hasn't enough power it "dies", and you can pick it up

Don't want any new guns. But just to live out my boyish dreams...

N-Bomb (grenade from Perfect Dark N64) - Creates dark sphere on impact that expands and fuzzies the target's vision. Secondary, only one to carry.
MagSec 4 (also PD) - Nine bullet, semi-automatic. Non-accurate, triple-burst with very small scope. It's a primary.
Devastor (PD) - 8-rounds granade launcher. Granade bounces once then blows on second impact. Very powerful primary.

i'd like a crossbow that has less reload time then m79, 1 headshot kills, a body or leg hit doesnt and an average arrow speed, like an mp5 bullet

EDIT:
Smoke Nades ^^

Yea! Smoke nades!

I think smoke greandes would be a pretty cool idea. I would add a more strategic aspect to the game. You could mess with your opponents mind. Won't happen tho!

quote:Originally posted by White ShadowYea! Smoke nades!

I think they might couze lag.

a bow for regular use with 20 arrows and 2.5-3s reload.
ah yes.. then you would call ppl bowtards.. lets better not.

depends on the thickness of the smoke though...

Smoke G = Bad idea. No really need of that.

The HEkler and Kock GMG ( insert VERY evil grin here....) otherwise known as the HK Mk.19 ....

mua ha ha ha everybody dies! only ME survives!

I would like to see the Bozar. Im not actually sure if this thing is real, or if it is if its actually used, but its a sniper weapon Ive seen and used in Fallout 2 that uses .223 amunition and its only mode is burst!

Also, Shuriken and Napalm grenades would be cool powerups to replace normal grenades. And maybe a heavier machine gun as a secondary weapon that you can only use crouching like the LAW

I got an idea that will rock all of your socks. Using dead soldats as meat shields. When you see a dead body, you can pick it up. It is similar to the Shield idea mentioned earlier, but it bleeds and deteriorates over time because it falls apart. It merely causes you to take less damage. You would need to make so the body stayed when you picked it up for it to work, since bodies disappear when the person re-spawns, it might not be easy. But hey, its just a suggestion, and I bet I rocked at least 5 peoples socks. :)

Hanz, you always rock my socks.

Hanz wins the thread. Dead body shields are possibly the best suggestion ever for Soldat. And since bullet penetration is already in the game, there would be almost no changes needed -- just attach one part of the ragdoll to the Soldier's hand. Bullets would come through the body with reduced velocity, doing less (but still substantial) damage. And the body would fall apart as usual.

You wouldn't be able to use a gun while holding a dead soldier, of course... so there's the question of whether you'd have to drop your weapon to pick up a dead soldier. Treating ragdolls as weapons might be a pain in some situations... you'd drop your secondary to pick up another weapon, and you get a dead Soldat instead. Not so good.

Still, it would be a kickass feature, especially since dead soldiers already partially block bullets and disintegrate as they take damage.

I do like this idea, but I'm not sure that you shouldn't be able to use a gun with a body sheild. I think maybe you shouldn't be able run or jet or go anywhere very fast at all, but as far as I can see there would be little to no point if you couldn't use a gun while holding the sheild, except for protecting someone else.

-spas 12 means Special Purpose Automatic Shotgun, and it's not automatic, AND it has 8 rounds
-desert eagle has 7 rounds and in real life it has 9 rounds
-fn minimi has 50 rounds and in real life it has 30
-barret shoots faster in real life
-yarrr, I'm the all-gun-knower... :P

I say we add an elephant gun.

*check* body's disappear after respawn *end of check*

Heres a new idea. As another grenade powerup, you could get caltrops! Just big bag of nasty spikey traps to throw in your path if your getting chased.

And what if in addition to 2 weapons you could get a piece of armor or a tool or something. Like a helmet to reduce headshots, a kevlar vest to reduce body damage, and then stuff like extended clips, scopes, and lasersights.

quote:spas 12 means Special Purpose Automatic Shotgun, and it's not automatic, AND it has 8 roundsSince it's a shotgun the "automatic" really means "semi-automatic," since most shotguns aren't automatic at all. The Soldat SPAS-12 isn't even semi-auto, it appears to be pump-action. However, this is consistent with the real-life version, which has a selector switch for semi-auto or pump action. The main inconsistency is that the real-life SPAS-12 holds 8 rounds, as opposed to 7. No big deal. (info from [URL])

quote:desert eagle has 7 rounds and in real life it has 9 roundsActually the real life DE can have a magazine of 7, 8, or 9 rounds. ([URL])

quote:fn minimi has 50 rounds and in real life it has 30Real life Minimi is primarily belt-fed weapon... the "magazine" is a box containing an ammo belt. Some models can also use M16 magazines if necessary... is that what you're thinking of? The gun can accept magazines of much more than 50 rounds. I think the standard box is about 200 rounds. ([URL])

quote:barret shoots faster in real lifeThe M82A1 does... I think Michal modeled the gun after the M90, which looks very similar but is bolt-action and so fires much more slowly. ([URL])

quote: As another grenade powerup, you could get caltrops! Just big bag of nasty spikey traps to throw in your path if your getting chased.I don't know... if they didn't detonate like grenades, they could get spammed on the flag area and just sit there forever until somebody walked onto them. Grenades are spammy enough in CTF even though they explode pretty quickly.

I think molotov cocktails might be fun. They would be a power up that replaces grenades, and causes the ground to burn for a few seconds. And about corpse shields, that's what people called "Soldier" are for.

i would like a nade where u use the meat sheild idea and stuff the body with grenades then you chuck it at someone

Red Raider BB gun from f2

Shipka SMG in 9x18 Makarov.

Rate of fire: 700 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 32 rounds (25 rounds for 9x19mm)
is it a good idea

What about flashbangs...but they only flahs for 3 or 5 secs...and only flash players that are on the "same screen"

No flashbangs. ;G

Why? It could be a secondary weapon.....

flashbangs are probably very possible. like in realistic mode, you have to look at your enemies to see them. it could work the same way with flash bangs and the screen could go white for a moment. i dont think Mich will add them, but it would make a nice addition

The shieldgun from UT2004. It has very limited clipsize, and only does minimal damage up close. Chosen as a primary.

Bear-traps. You toss one out and any player who steps on them is slowed and can't use their jet boots.

Bouncing grenades, they jump about before exploding.

Sticky mines. 'nuff said.

Baby-stuffed-full-of-dynamite-in-stroller. Plop this bad boy out and toss it down a hill. Watch all those feminine Soldats come to the rescue before exploding!

I WANT A GUN WHERE I CAN SHOOT A TINY BALL AND THEN BE ABLE TO SHOOT IN IN AIR AND HAVE IT ESPLODE AND KILL PEOPLE BY IT >.>

or a lighting gun...woulnd be nice

(or the ability to shoot nades and have it do alot of damage)

Smoke nades would be fun ^^ u use them as nades only that instead of damedging it sends out smoke. it is used like real mode u cant see things in or behind the smoke cloud.

land mines?

Elephant hunting rifle:

Something between the ruger and the m79...2 bulletts, 6 seconds between two shots, and 8 sec reload time...if it hits, it goes BLAM.

For real Demo. :)

For the D Eagles I think you could make a double barrel shotgun, thats what I did for my MOD.

I really think we should add like a cannon-stat. A stationary type of cannon, fires a quick, giant xplosive shell. Sort of like a tank shell.

A nade that jumps and in the air shoots bullets

Wtf Whitey? D:

Just bored:B

Not all of these are original ideas, some are ideas mentioned in the thread which I think aree good.

-Flashbangs: screen goes white for a few seconds, fading back into color
-Proximity Mines: when a player gets close, the detontator pops into the air (ala TS2) and explodes. This makes it noticeable, so the player has time to move away, if theyre not already dead.
-BearTrap: Large and obvious, but if a player steps in one they take minimal damage, and cannot move. BearTrap springs snap after a while, and they dissappear after snapping shut.
-Agent Glasses (and ear "plug"): Pickup. Two versions. Lasts 15 seconds.
>CIA Version: Taps you into the CIA network, giving you Secret Service Super Powers (SSSP). An large arrow will appear, pointing at people off-screen, but within a certain proximity. You also have extended boosters.
>Matrix Version: Boosted Speed. Immune to Bing effect. Crouching extends crosshair distance (like Barrett) with all weapons. If you die with the Agent Glasses on, you respawn on top of the player who killed you, with the Agent Glasses gone.
-iPod: Hit someone with it and they stop for five seconds, listening to music. Takes one second to kill opponents, strangling them with headphones.
-Chozo Suit: Pickup. Lasts for thee minutes. You immediately end up in the Chozo Suit, boosted jump and jet booster. every time yu die within the time limit, you come back with the power, and have to choose from the Metroid weapons.

End of my ideas. More as I think of them.

I insit on Flashbangs as a secondary weapon...

You start with 3 and when thrown, the blind every one on the screen...

Chozo suuuuit! That would be great, but wouldnt make any sense at all for Soldat.

quote:Originally posted by mar77a

You start with 3 and when thrown, the blind every one on the screen...


That would [IMAGE] up soldat so badly, the game and community would die instantly

A scythe! :)
(Just bored panda)

I want an automatic barret! ...just kidding :p

*sigh*

quote:Originally posted by mar77aI insit on Flashbangs as a secondary weapon...

You start with 3 and when thrown, the blind every one on the screen...


there should only be one and it should only blind if you look directly at it. otherwise you will most probolly play with wight screen all the time.

btw. a sport rifle as secondary. with clip of 5 or 10. it would have little damage but it would shoot farther than the scom.

So Seriously:
Boxer for secondary!
No bullets, and its more powerful than fists but not more powerful than knife,
and if you throw it it doesn't hurt

I want to be a hobo with a cardboard box and a tranquilizer.

P90

I want a sawed-off double-barreled shotgun. You could fire both barrels nearly simultaneously, as fast as you could click the mouse. However, you'd only have two shots, and then have to reload for about 1.5 seconds.

The sawed-off's buckshot would have about 3x as much "spread" as the SPAS-12, preventing the weapon from doing serious damage at long range. However, if you fired both barrels at close range the enemy would be shredded.

I think this could balance well with other weapons.

A piece of cardboard would own. With it you could make bigass papercuts.

Magnum gun as secondary, mines as secondary.

NO MINES. EVER. Mines require no skill. People would simply spam them all over the flag area, and they'd get kills without even timing a throw properly.

Adding mines would only make the game more fun for people who are unable to get kills with any of the current weapons, and would piss off everyone else.

quote:Originally posted by mar77aI insit on Flashbangs as a secondary weapon...

You start with 3 and when thrown, the blind every one on the screen...





would be too much lag....

quote:Originally posted by MarineFor the D Eagles I think you could make a double barrel shotgun, thats what I did for my MOD.





dont touch my deagles!!!!! ^__^

double knifes...

Aaa quad barrett.