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Vassili_Zaitsev
December 20, 2004, 9:46 am
i have been reading and there are a fair few complaints about people assulting with the barret.
you know, how people rush ya with a big sniper rifel in their hands an drive a super-powered bullet thrugh your head with precision accuracy whilst in mid-jump?

i think the barret should be based on a system like the LAW.
im not saying that you dissalow firing the rifel from a standing position, i think that we shoud TAKE THE SNIPER LINE AND CROSSHAIR AWAY.

while the person with the rifel is standing or on the air he/she has no crosshair or sniper line. when that person gets crouched or prone the line and/or crosshair comes back.

i have been looking at how other games combat the power of the sniper rifel, and the asnwer is usually pretty common amongst all of them: take the crosshair away.

this would make the sniper rifel a much more specialised weapon.

instead of doing something drastic like lowering the barrets power, or making its reload time slower, or even taking it out of the game, why dont we just make it so it can only properly be used for the use it was intended?

specialist snipers will emerge, who have skill, because it can only be used in a camping situation...BUT this is not a bad thing because the person who is using the weapon will have to be good enough to neuturalize the offence quick or else he has next to no defence when they come near. he cant stand and fire if he has time to reload, he cant stay prone or crouched because he is a sitting duck. if he dosnt kill you he is dead.

it wouldnt take long for people to realize that the sniper rifel isnt such an easy- one-hit-kill weapon and this takes the pressure of camping.

less campers.

m00`
December 20, 2004, 9:51 am
I agree that you should remove the crosshair unless ur proning/crouching, i'd rather get camped from a barret than assaulted...

KnOt
December 20, 2004, 10:00 am
Oh ffs.. Lets face it, with the bink effect+sprayage the only way you can successfuly use a barret is by camping. Lets not all go into this again .. ¬_¬

Vassili_Zaitsev
December 20, 2004, 10:02 am
but the people still complain!
listen to the people!

KeFear
December 20, 2004, 10:13 am
Learn how to defend yourself against these barreters. Of course, sometimes there is no defence, only the barreters bad aiming, but in other cases, you can defend yourself, like an mp5 in your hand, and he won't ever hit you. Leave the barret now as is. I hate the bink effect already, cos it affects my ruger too. :(


Deleted User
December 20, 2004, 10:22 am
Hmmmm... you have a point there. I agree that the Barret is far from the "ultimate" attack weapon, as it has too slow reloading time to take out more than one enemy succesfully, especially when there are multiple enemies in the nearby area.
For example: you (the Barreter) assault the enemy base. With the Barret. And there are two enemies camping/just respawning/etc. in the enemy base. Well, if you kill one, the second one'll still be after you, most probably with deadly concequences.
So i think, in this scenario, there is no point in adjusting the Barret. Just leave "as is".

Vassili_Zaitsev
December 20, 2004, 10:38 am
yea but what about people with the barret killing while in the air?

its just not on (or realistic)

you can kill someone in air-to-air combat with a barret.

maybe my idea could be implemented in realistic mode only?

KeFear
December 20, 2004, 10:53 am
Yeah, it should be :) by the way, did you ever play in realistic mode? If you did, you should know, that no one uses barret there, cos it can't be used against any other weapon.

By the way, killing with barret in the air is as realistic as small soldiers flying with an ak and shooting in mid-air. Soldat is just not realistic by any means.

Anyhow, if the barretter is in the air, he should be in great danger against auto-weapons. Maybe he can take one soldier down, but probably he won't ever shoot his weapon (well, not in the right direction thanks to the bink effect) Of course, if he shoots first, he kills. But try to avoid that. Or just try yourself how hard is that when there are couple of other soldiers shooting with auto-guns.

Vassili_Zaitsev
December 20, 2004, 11:28 am
yea i just played soldat again for a stretch
i spose ma idea really isnt nessisary. the barret is junt another gun with weaknesses and strenghts like all the others.

ya know, micheal i think has got the weapons juuust right.

man i hate it when im wrong and i know i am...:P

oh and to all thoes camper whingers: shut up and go play some soldat

you hardly notice campers at all really...sigh

Magniitude
December 20, 2004, 11:57 am
The barret is a gun. Just because people whine about it doesnt mean that its bad. Its a part of any shooter. If we taking the aiming reticle out, and teh sniper line, it will be close to friggin' impossible to use. Leave it as it is, its a gun.

Alamo
December 20, 2004, 12:58 pm
Hugoku: Not that I find it annoying or something but your signature still violates the rules.. It's supposed to be only 125px high. You should change it before a moderator does. Just a hint ;)

I think Vassilij has a point. It's even realistic. In addition everyone (including me) would be content with the new Barrett.

BMF
December 20, 2004, 2:29 pm
Dude the barret is barely useful now as it is

WHATS THE POINT OF COMPLETELY [IMAGE] OUT OF BARRET, HOW ABOUT WE NERF DEAGLES INSTEAD THAT ARE MORE POWERFUL THAN ANY OTHER WEAPON THIS VERSION

Alamo
December 20, 2004, 3:02 pm
... i don't have a problem with the barrett. i can still own with it but that's probably because it's barely useful.

bucky_brad
December 20, 2004, 3:15 pm
FFS, leave the [IMAGE]ing weapons editor. I am so sick of peoples god dam whining.

KeFear
December 20, 2004, 3:26 pm
Oh yeah, the barret is useful now too, it still rules the 1vs1 games (well, not that much it did before bink effect)
You need more skill to use it than before. I think it is good enough. And for those who only use barret: try to be good with another gun, cos you will be in great trouble if you go to a server where barret is disabled or it can't be used well (eg: many people in a dm, or something)

Tomullus
December 20, 2004, 3:37 pm
Yeah Mr. Vasiil , but don;t You think there would be rather more campers? I don't believe they'll stop using it, but camp camp camp... loads of campers. No,,,noo The gun is gun as it is, beacuse we can really deny that change.

DT
December 20, 2004, 3:37 pm
the barrets fine... but if it DID need to be lowered in power... i would have to say only headshots kill...

zoldat
December 20, 2004, 6:14 pm
Leave the barret alone

Hitman
December 20, 2004, 6:19 pm
JUST [IMAGE]ING DROP IT!

SuperKill
December 20, 2004, 6:34 pm
holy f*cking [IMAGE] up!
even if the barret would be a 6 shot kill with 10 seconds reload between every shot, and you'd get killed somehow i'm sure you'll find a way to complain and blame the barret about being overpowered.

[IMAGE]ing hell cut it out .. its not even funny anymore. i dont use barret at all now and i cant see the slightest detail that's overpowered in it.

i just noticed something funny.. in every new version, you can hear: "finally! no more barret being overpowered!" and then a few days later the wave of barret flaming is coming. goddamn, get over it. its not overpowered you morons.

PS - you would prefer barret assaulters then campers. games are still "somehow" progress when players use barret in an "assaulting" way, but when they camp the whole server starts to b!tch and cry. just stfu or atleast dont wish for campers.