Well, I just installed the UTubermod, a extremely tight mod that transforms your weapons/gosteks/textures to that of Unreal Tournament 2004. Now i played UT2004 a while back and I remember my favorite part was the jumping. To say the least, you could jump normally but then you could double tap, which would allow your player to flip and such. Imagine your on a level and someone shoots a law at you and you do a flip right over it and while your upside down you throw your knife in someones head. I smile just thinking about it. Now i know soldat is suppose to be somewhat realistic but I just think, adding such a feature would make the game more apeeling to a larger group of people. Please dont flame. :)

Oooh...that would be sooo awesome.

...I would like that, actually.

yes, might be cool, in some situations.. when here is no jet available, like in lagrange..

we have jets

well, u aint gonna be able to react fast enuf to dodge a rocket launcher... however if you're like just about to run into a guy with a chainsaw and u have no weapon selected it WOULD be cool to like flip over him last second switch to knife and throw it right above (when upside-down that's under) you and hit him in the head...
not too much good use for that idea but i like it nevertheless

I'd like it if I am allowed to shoot my gun while flipped

by the gods... NO
you don't do flips in the air without using your jetpacks

Some kind of jet flip would be cool.

How about you can only "double jump" right after you jump straight off the ground. If you use jets before you "double jump" you don't go any higher, you just do a flip and loose altitude.

I would like to see that on newest version of Soldat

it would be fun^^
me likes

we have jets, pfft! How about on maps like B2b ? v little jets? And could help on those climbing maps. Gotta love them minds of these people. Yes, this would be a great idea. Think of all the demo possibilities......

and how much more i could be like a ninja!!!
oh wait, pirate :P

well, i like it, IF it isn't like dodging LAW and barrett, or m79, knife.. and not always Jump, Jump, Jump, Shoot with Barrett, Jump, Shoot with barrett, Get flag, Jump, Jump, Dodge LAW, Jump, Shoot with barrett, cap, Jump....

Even better Ben, be a ninja pirate ;)
I'd like this... I've always liked the idea of some acrobatic moves in soldat.

thier are acrobatic moves in soldat... you just gota fiure them out...like i did...
i'll post pictures later..
quote: BTW, DT, please post pics. :D

i'm at school i can't even make em...

Would add an extra feature to all soldat movies aswell.

Yeah, UT's double-jump are so nice. Would be really great in-game. Would'nt transform the whole soldat gameplay.

Excellent idea. I am suprised I have never heard anyone suggest this before. I've seen suggestions advocating everything from the implementation of Airplanes and Helicopters, to atomic bombs. This one actually makes sense. BTW, DT, please post pics. :D

Meh, his "acrobatic moves" are probably just rolling from walls and the lot... I mean real moves :P

D00d, i made that mod. Yay! Double jump would be great. Maybe even triple jump, if you are completely unarmed. Makes sense as you have less weight on you and you could jump higher. Like SSBM.

I'm definitely a supporter of more dodging moves and faster movements in general.

Quite unrealistic. Maybe a button with extra jet fuel would do it. You could press Space,for example, and the soldat would get a super jet boost (with quite long reload i guess).

Who cares about realistic things...

I do.. or else u should be able to shoot Law in the air again, for example. It was removed for being unrealistic. Got it pokemon?

Well excuse me, mister pokemon hater.

ight enuf about u 2 - back to the idea: it's good and stuff but some problems could occur when like flipping onto a wall u might like end up being upside down when against the wall and then if he still spins it'd look weird (and stopping upside down is quite stupid as well). so i dunno how to solve tat lil problem but also, it'd be coold if u can flippingly jump off walls and make a backflip or something! we need ways to bounce off walls better so it doens't slow you down as much in the game cuz it gets really annoying that you can't control ur guy a lot while fallin straight down. so then you could like bounce off walls and be quicker and less predictable and harder to estimate how to shoot u)...

you can roll off cliffs in soldat and i noticed that with m79 bullet goes straight down. I think this is a cool feature allready in soldat, i dont really know about double and triple jumps...

i think it shouldn't qualify as a second jump- just something to look cool in the air.
perhaps you could do a variety of flips, depending on how many times you press the jump button in the air?

Ben, thats kind of what I was thinking. Not something to totally launch you a second time, but more of just a acrobatical move.

GEETZZTZ!!!123812!9((

Maybe also kicking and punching moves too! Think: U come against me with no weapon and i notice that, i throw my weapon away and kill you witj Punch-punch-Lowkick-spinkick combo! COOL!

or maybe.. just leave Soldat animations as they are now, at least i dont see anything wjy should soldat need something new.. just fix old bugs, that is best addition ever! BUGFREE SOLDAT!

perhaps if you puched (unarmed) in the air, you could do a judo-kick as well?

Yeah, like in FEAR! And it would turn the game into a souped up version of moonlander, cos everyone would be using retrojets to fly around. And then there would be countering systems, blocks and soldat would turn into an MMORPG where it will be turn based and moogle will keep saying random crap. Yey.

how bout u flip if u press jump 2 time and hold a direction and then when u r flippin u go bullet time MATRIX

Then everyone would have to go into bullet time, cos if people kept doing that then the game would be very sluggish and annoying cos the time ang lag would cause problems and they will still be firing at the same speed.

Dam i like that idea!! I will like be like some Ninja games :)

You are all AWAY from the original idea but REALLY away. We talking about a simple "double-jump" 2 step: 1) press jump button once --> normal jump. 2) press jump button 2 times fast --> normal jump+ second jump(smaller).

NOt your double backflip 5*jump roll kick punch kick.

YA YA YA YA

ok ok dam it

I tell you what would be better Air Dash.

It would take about half a bar of Jet boost if you do it, but depending on the way you're facing, it pushes you in that direction to about a good run speed.

This would help balance the barret (because the bink is a little too unfair) and the whiners finally. Should of thought of it sooner.

(oh and what button would you use? Middle click perhaps?)

How would it balance the barret?
And the barret IS perfect as it is now with bink.

Being able to suddenly stop in the air then dash suddenly in a direction just before it fires would seriously undermine the barret. I always found that the Bink should of at least been reserved for something like Realistic mode.

I'm with Icarius: Soldat does need more movement, but double jumps would be too.. akward. We already have jet boots for moving up, now all we need is a dash to move fast right and left. I believe a double tap would be just right.

Maybe I could add something like this, I've been thinking of some dodge movements for some time now.

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I hope nothing on the middle button though, I like having reload there.

buttons can be changed steelix ;d

... soldat double jumps... if you are skilled enough and smart enough you can figure out dodge moves by yourself...
(still gota post pics... and make them to)
i strongly disagree on this... to me its just not soldat if you put in double jumps and dashes...

Ok, let me argue this point further and you might agree more then. Soldat's movement has often, in my opinion, been very slow. I've always wanted something like a double dash to help me avoid those who use the barret as a rail gun. For example, you know when someone is about to do an air shot on you, if suddenly they stop moving completly. The barret would then offically become a Sniper Rifle. Not being able to dodge stuff sometimes just makes me think

"[IMAGE] this, not worth playing it anymore" and I give up for a year.

Since however, you don't like the idea, turning it on and off in servers, would be interesting. This again adds an element of customization thats been needed for a while.

ya dodging jumps wuld kik arse.....BAHA!!!

quote:Originally posted by DT... soldat double jumps... if you are skilled enough and smart enough you can figure out dodge moves by yourself...
(still gota post pics... and make them to)
i strongly disagree on this... to me its just not soldat if you put in double jumps and dashes...


well mr.DT, i respect your opinion but if almost every1 want this theres no more solution than take it
if you dont want double jump just dont do it ;)
Btw, i like the "dash jump" idea by tapping 2wice "a" or "d"
itll help alot to dodge jumping back... =)