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Hitman
July 29, 2005, 10:28 pm
..because it should already be bloody obvious.

Guys, if you're constantly complaining about various people irritating you on the forums (Mickle, Aznblood, to name a few) why do you provoke them? All you're doing is fuelling the fire.

I am constantly encountering topics that are turned into spam-infested pits, not because of posts made by the individuals mentioned above, rather due to the vast postings in reaction to that persons post. With all honesty, you are worse then they are and are constantly ruining topics because of your childish persistence in attacking them wherever and whenever. Even the smallest and harmless post is met with criticism and totally useless spam.

It's pretty damn obvious that you don't really hate them; in fact you enjoy their presence and thrive on harassing them. If they really are purposely trying to annoy the community then attention is all they seek and by giving it to them they are succeeding in their little game. If that's the case, which I don't think it is (not anymore at least), just ignore them and they will eventually go away. Flag any stupid posts/topics they may make and they will be dealt with accordingly.

Other than that, you are just making matters worse.

SuperKill
July 29, 2005, 10:30 pm
expect an excuse;
ITS TEH BASHPIT LOloLOloLolZzZ!111

m00`
July 29, 2005, 11:10 pm
ITS TEH BASHPIT LOloLOloLolZzZ!111
j/k

anyway we cant flag posts

ráz0r
July 29, 2005, 11:15 pm
ROFL0L PINK

Deleted User
July 29, 2005, 11:28 pm
Interesting post, Hitman. But I don't see why posting porn and lemonparty (mickle and Liber) should be allowed.

AerialAssault
July 30, 2005, 1:03 am
why shouldnt it be? who here DOESNT look at porn?

Deleted User
July 30, 2005, 1:06 am
Lemonparty...?

peemonkey
July 30, 2005, 1:26 am
i dont.

Chakra`
July 30, 2005, 1:33 am
I highly agree. Alot of people (already evident in this topic) make completely useless replies.

What happened to the days when people replied to topics they were actually interested in or had a comment worth reading?

lastpatriot
July 30, 2005, 1:42 am
Those days are gone, Chakra. DooDooDooDooDooDooDooDooDooDooDooDooDooDooDooDooDooDooDooDoo.

mar77a
July 30, 2005, 3:08 am
No they are not lalalala, I eat grey monkey fur breakfastz....!!!! Ahaha *munch munch*, YUMYY!!! It's the brain1!!

Deleted User
July 30, 2005, 3:50 am
I agree with you hitman. And its pretty obvious this thread has already been ruined by those people you were mentioning in your post. Atleast dont (Please refrain from swearing) up other people's topics by posting your bull(Please refrain from swearing) in them.

mickle89
July 30, 2005, 4:14 am
I totally agree Hitman. Every time I say anything decent in a topic it starts again. Once someone says something about me i get ticked and it goes from there. If people actually stopped.....

EDIT: And i didn't post pr0n. My avatar had a boobie in it. OMG A BOOBIE!!!! Hasn't everyone seen one before?

Rambo_6
July 30, 2005, 4:47 am
In real life? Don't count on it for a lot of us forumers.

Encouraging the spammers is fun! I just sit back and say, "DANCE PUPPETS, DANCE!"

Deleted User
July 30, 2005, 5:56 am
quote:Originally posted by Rambo_6 In real life? Don't count on it for a lot of us forumers.

Encouraging the spammers is fun! I just sit back and say, "DANCE PUPPETS, DANCE!"
hahaha

MikeShinoda.pheonix
July 30, 2005, 5:59 am
I miss the days when I could actually have a discussion on here. I suppose all of these repeating threads and spamming are fun for the new dudes. I mean, us older players have seen enough of it and moved on. We all used to be n00bs and well, spamming and such. We have just grown out of it. It's just annoying for us, because it's all been done before. I miss being a n00b. I had my funnest times in soldat then. It's just getting boring now.

Chakra`
July 30, 2005, 6:07 am
How about I take styx's job?


problem solved. (and a new problem arisen)

The Geologist
July 30, 2005, 6:38 am
I'm sorry, I just can't trust someone with glowing eyes in a position of power.

Chakra`
July 30, 2005, 6:49 am
Oh come on...you 'know' it'd be for the better. I'll up the pixel limit on signitures to 300x126!

Deleted User
July 30, 2005, 8:15 am
CHAKRA FOR PRESIDENT!

peemonkey
July 30, 2005, 8:29 am
ive been here so long...

AerialAssault
July 30, 2005, 8:49 am
why do you still waste your time on us peemonkey?

Deleted User
July 30, 2005, 11:26 am
quote:Originally posted by ráz0rROFL0L PINK


Hey Jaz.

SuperKill
July 30, 2005, 12:00 pm
quote:Originally posted by AerialAssaultwho here DOESNT look at porn?

umm is it really that weird for someone not to watch porn? ;f

papasurf31
July 30, 2005, 2:56 pm
We don't normally provoke them, Hitman. In many cases, they will start something that is stupid or lame on their own, (the recent mickle topic from aznblood, and BOTH mickle story threads). Can we help it if they continue to spam their way through the forums. We do the best thing we can to make thems stop, which is by telling them to (Please refrain from swearing) off and shut the hell up and nobody likes them when they act like idiots. Most (read: normal) people would get the message and start shaping up, changing their attitude, but these people decide they like the attention or whatever it is that gets them off and they continue with their acts of idiocy. Which angers us even more, causing more falmes and critcism. It's a viscious cycle, but not one that we started.

While it is true that topics can be ruined by our flames to those aforementioned members, please remember that it was them who first caused our hostility towards them. Rather than telling us to just ignore them, which might work, or might aggravate us further, why not deal with the problem directly and put out a message to them (the spammers) to consider what the post before actually posting it, thus reducing the amount of useless crap we have to reply to.

I agree that SOME of the forum members here do enjoy attacking them for small, insignificant and ultimately stupid reasons. Even I have found that if I am aggravated, I will join in the cyber beatdown to give myself a boost. And if attention is really what they seek, then I do admit that ignoring them would be the thing to do. But it's too late for that now. They already know that they can get a reaction from the people here, they know that it's difficult for them to be ignored, and that sooner or later, someone is going to give them their time of day to reply. Eventually, they might go away, but it's faster and more effective to make them do so. If driving them away by force is what is neccesary to bring our forums back to civilization, then so be it.

We may be making matters worse, but they made it bad in the first place. Please remember that and take your frustration out accordingly.


mickle89
July 30, 2005, 3:55 pm
I dont enjoy the attacking and spam. I simply made a topic in the BASHPIT to create a story.

Hitman
July 30, 2005, 4:37 pm
quote:Originally posted by m00`ITS TEH BASHPIT LOloLOloLolZzZ!111
j/k

anyway we cant flag posts
Well, let's see now. What would be the next logical thing to do? Maybe a PM to Styx with a link to the topic?quote: We don't normally provoke them, Hitman. In many cases, they will start something that is stupid or lame on their own, (the recent mickle topic from aznblood, and BOTH mickle story threads). Can we help it if they continue to spam their way through the forums. We do the best thing we can to make thems stop, which is by telling them to (Please refrain from swearing) off and shut the hell up and nobody likes them when they act like idiots.Indeed, and you are only making it worse by responding to the "stupid posts/topics". Remember, this is the internet and they have complete and utter anonymity, so do you really think a few people telling them that they are hated will affect them on a personal level? Remember, you don't know who they are and visa versa. What's more, you've been doing this for weeks (months?) now and it hasn't changed a thing. I would have expected that you would have learned through trail and error; obviously not.quote: It's a viscious cycle, but not one that we started.Yes, it is a vicious circle and may not be one that you started, but it's one that you can stop by not taking part.quote: While it is true that topics can be ruined by our flames to those aforementioned members, please remember that it was them who first caused our hostility towards them. Rather than telling us to just ignore them, which might work, or might aggravate us further, why not deal with the problem directly and put out a message to them (the spammers) to consider what the post before actually posting it, thus reducing the amount of useless crap we have to reply to.(Forum rule: No star hunting/Spamming) Spammers are spammers, they always have been and always will be. If they haven't already got the message through the rules, it's best to just ignore them and let themselves get banned.quote: Eventually, they might go away, but it's faster and more effective to make them do so. If driving them away by force is what is necessary to bring our forums back to civilization, then so be it.No, by arguing with them they are just dragging you down to their level. It may work in real life, but not on the internet. If the necessary force is required then it will be exercised in the form of a ban. You can do your part in this by flagging (read reply to first quoted text above) posts or topics and helping the moderators and Styx to eliminate these spammers, instead of just flaming them. Simple.quote: We may be making matters worse, but they made it bad in the first place. Please remember that and take your frustration out accordingly.
Do not lecture me.

Kazuki
July 30, 2005, 5:13 pm
Wow, Hitman, I love you. I tried to make a post like this once, but it ended up a big ball of anger.

Either way, the best advice I can give is to just not respond to them if you don't like the way they're acting. I know this may be a bit hypocritic coming from me, but it's probably the best way to avoid the conflict. You could also take it head on, but that usually makes matters worse. If you see a stupid topic, don't even click on it. Stupid post? Nope, just scroll on down.

Also, I agree with Chakra on the fact that not many of us are actually worth paying attention to anymore ...

Seriously, "LOOK AT MY, IM FUNNY BECAUSE I CAN TYPE IN CAPS AND DO THIS: LOLZOZLZOLOLAIOOLLOL" is not going to cut it.

papasurf31
July 30, 2005, 8:24 pm
quote:Indeed, and you are only making it worse by responding to the "stupid posts/topics". Remember, this is the internet and they have complete and utter anonymity, so do you really think a few people telling them that they are hated will affect them on a personal level? Remember, you don't know who they are and visa versa. What's more, you've been doing this for weeks (months?) now and it hasn't changed a thing. I would have expected that you would have learned through trail and error; obviously not.

That was how we got rid of Mickle the first time. We were pretty sure that he would not have returned after our rather thorough display of public hostility towards him. Yet he returned, albeit slightly improved, but still sometimes acting like a pre-pubescent flamer. Even without flagging posts or reporting to the admins, the mods and styx should have realized our feelings towards mickle, and certain other members. Now, I'm not blaming them for letting these members remain, but isn't it there job to make sure that these forums remain free from those who repeatedly break the rules? Since no offcial action has been taken against them, it seems that it's in our hands to get rid of these "scum".

quote:(Forum rule: No star hunting/Spamming) Spammers are spammers, they always have been and always will be. If they haven't already got the message through the rules, it's best to just ignore them and let themselves get banned.

Yet that hasn't happened yet. You said it yourself just how long we've shown how much we dislike these members, and yet they are still here. Are we supposed to just ignore them while the higher ups sit around idly twiddling their thumbs?

quote:No, by arguing with them they are just dragging you down to their level. It may work in real life, but not on the internet. If the necessary force is required then it will be exercised in the form of a ban. You can do your part in this by flagging (read reply to first quoted text above) posts or topics and helping the moderators and Styx to eliminate these spammers, instead of just flaming them. Simple.

I agree with you there, and I am hopeful that these actions have been done. But while our requests are being processed, I don't see why we have to stand for them continuing to defile our society. If we can get rid of them faster, then more power to the people.

quote:Do not lecture me.

I apologize. I'm not trying in any way to be hostile towards you, I'm merely trying to express my view on these matters.

Kazuki
July 30, 2005, 11:10 pm
quote:Originally posted by papasurf31You said it yourself just how long we've shown how much we dislike these members, and yet they are still here. Are we supposed to just ignore them while the higher ups sit around idly twiddling their thumbs?

... It doesn't seem like your method is working very well either, since, as you said, they are still here. I'm not trying to be hostile, either. Just thought I'd point it out.

Chakra`
July 30, 2005, 11:23 pm
One. Last. Time.


Give me styx's job. You know it'd work, so lets work towards it. I've got pitchforks for everyone.

ráz0r
July 30, 2005, 11:35 pm
quote:Originally posted by Stalkyquote:Originally posted by ráz0rROFL0L PINK


Hey Jaz.


Hey Stalky.

m00`
July 31, 2005, 12:17 am
quote:Originally posted by ráz0rquote:Originally posted by Stalkyquote:Originally posted by ráz0rROFL0L PINK


Hey Jaz.


Hey Stalky.


Hey Jaz.

Kazuki
July 31, 2005, 12:35 am
Oh, for the love of God!

You tell them they're being illiterate, unfunny, and out-of-your-mind boring and they keep fekkin' doing it!

Edit: Chakra, we can't give you Styx's job, so you'll have to talk to him about it. However, I don't think he'd be positive towards a guy who has "GIVE ME YOUR EMPIRE, I WILL RID THIS WORLD OF STUPIDITY" written all over him. :P

ráz0r
July 31, 2005, 12:36 am
quote:Originally posted by m00`quote:Originally posted by ráz0rquote:Originally posted by Stalkyquote:Originally posted by ráz0rROFL0L PINK


Hey Jaz.


Hey Stalky.


Hey Jaz.


Hey (Please refrain from swearing).

The Geologist
July 31, 2005, 1:48 am
No quote trains. Or it's death by pike.

ráz0r
July 31, 2005, 1:52 am
i liek piek?

The Geologist
July 31, 2005, 4:52 am
Well...okay then.

MOFO NOFO
July 31, 2005, 4:58 am
Sif Chakra take styx's job.... Keron FOR PRESIDENT

Now that i have said that, keron, where is my large sum of money you promised me?