im really more of a socialist than a communist. communism is a great idea, but it will never work without a few centuries (sp?) of a socialist society to act as the stepping stone from capitalism. its all about evolution of society, capitalism is needed to form the infrastructure for socialism and later communism, but its not a good idea for a perminant economic and social system. im still a communist in that i think it will one day come into play the way marx had planned, but certainly not in our life-time. so for now, yay socialism.

never thought I'd hear that from u.. whee

Capitalism is the best system. Communism is the way of the past. Get with the times, yo.

isnt New Zealand socialist?

No

quote:Originally posted by Milkman DanNo
Liar, you even said that the Labour party over there is Commie scum.

EDIT: I HATE COMMIE SCUM, I HATE COMMIE SCUM, I SPIT ON THE RED FLAG, I HATE COMMIE SCUM
EDIT 2: I HATE COMMIE SCUM, I HATE COMMIE SCUM, REDS ARE ON THE STREET TONIGHT, LET'S GET THAT COMMIE SCUM

I was exaggerating 'cos i hate them. In actual fact they support private business and free market etc but they're more left than the party i voted for. NOT socialist.

Capitalism -> Communism -> Corruption -> War -> Capitalism V
^ <- <- <- <- <- <- <- <- <- <- <- <- <- <- <- <- <- <- <- <- <-

...There's capitalism flavoured V?

MilkmanDan should try it and tell us if it tastes good.

The cure for the ills of Democracy is even more democracy.

Communism never worked, and never will, because human nature is simply against it. For example, in Communism, a shop would give out free merchandise, and the people would only take what they need, and not any more. I doubt that a situation like that will ever be possible without conditioning people like in A. Huxley's Brave New World, which would essentially kill the goal of Communism, which is something like providing an utopia where everyone is equal in our society.

^^Agree. Human instinct is too strongly gravitated towards going for personal gain. We can never really have a society where everybody *shares* and expect it to last, because somebody'll always recognize the ability to go for the gold, so to speak, and get it.

T-money, that's the smartest thing I've ever read from you :')

Silly Commie :P

NO YOU DON'T! You're still a supposed member of that communist party for children or whatever. By definition, you're a lowlife dirty communist. Stop walking on my sidewalk.

when will people realize that there has NEVER been a real communist nation, you can never just impose communism on a country and expect it to work like many have tried (and failed).

communism is the term used to describe the status of a society that has acheived total equality in which there is little to no corruption and everyone works together for mutual gain.

until a single country can say they have that, they are not communist.

and in this day and age, such an idea seems very far-fetched.

but the idea is that society as a whole slowly evolves to that system over the course of hundreds of years.

starting with a capitalist system to provide a sturdy infrastructure, from there the government would adapt more and more socialist policies over the years such as citizens being taxed proportionally according to their yearly income.

of course i believe that unless you are physically or mentally handicapped, you should only be given unemployment checks for 2 years(which will only be enough for the bare essentials) after that, if you dont have a job. you are on your own.

in my opinion, if you hope that one day a society such as this will acheived. then you are a communist.

To be honest, a blend of the two is what is needed, as well as a patriotic nation, one reason why people hate America's government is because somewhere along the road liberal people decided its best to complain about everything and forget about patriotism. I believe that petriotism, no matter what type of government will mean its success or demise.

quote:Originally posted by ?To be honest, a blend of the two is what is needed, as well as a patriotic nation, one reason why people hate America's government is because somewhere along the road liberal people decided its best to complain about everything and forget about patriotism. I believe that petriotism, no matter what type of government will mean its success or demise.


\o/ Yay, but that is what makes america so great. Liberal douches can go and protest with misinformation. In turn, we can throw eggs and yell at them!

ive got a riddle
whats the difference between capitalism and communism ?

in communism man exploits a man in capitalism its the opposite

quote:Originally posted by karmazonive got a riddle
whats the difference between capitalism and communism ?

in communism man exploits a man in capitalism its the opposite
In capitalism, man is exploited by a man?

quote:Originally posted by frogboyquote:Originally posted by karmazonive got a riddle
whats the difference between capitalism and communism ?

in communism man exploits a man in capitalism its the opposite
In capitalism, man is exploited by a man?


I thought you're gonna say "nam a stiolpxe nam msinummoc ni", but yeah you got it right

Pointless, but invigorating.

http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/810.html

"A witty saying proves nothing" - Voltaire.

wtf i didnt want to prove anything, it was a riddle

"I hate commie scum, I hate commie scum, I spit on the red flag, I hate commie scum." - Fortress

quote:Originally posted by AerialAssaultwhen will people realize that there has NEVER been a real communist nation, you can never just impose communism on a country and expect it to work like many have tried (and failed).

communism is the term used to describe the status of a society that has acheived total equality in which there is little to no corruption and everyone works together for mutual gain.

until a single country can say they have that, they are not communist.

and in this day and age, such an idea seems very far-fetched.

but the idea is that society as a whole slowly evolves to that system over the course of hundreds of years.

starting with a capitalist system to provide a sturdy infrastructure, from there the government would adapt more and more socialist policies over the years such as citizens being taxed proportionally according to their yearly income.

of course i believe that unless you are physically or mentally handicapped, you should only be given unemployment checks for 2 years(which will only be enough for the bare essentials) after that, if you dont have a job. you are on your own.

in my opinion, if you hope that one day a society such as this will acheived. then you are a communist.


I may be wrong, but did you stop reading my post after the first sentance? During the years of socialism, people were always "Building Communism" for the future generations. The idea of communism is great by itself, but it doesn't count the "human-factor" of our world, which kills it dead. (See why in my last post)

i dont like communism idea

This thread could get way out of hand if we're not careful....


I look forward to it!

quote:Originally posted by DeMonIcquote:Originally posted by AerialAssaultwhen will people realize that there has NEVER been a real communist nation, you can never just impose communism on a country and expect it to work like many have tried (and failed).

communism is the term used to describe the status of a society that has acheived total equality in which there is little to no corruption and everyone works together for mutual gain.

until a single country can say they have that, they are not communist.

and in this day and age, such an idea seems very far-fetched.

but the idea is that society as a whole slowly evolves to that system over the course of hundreds of years.

starting with a capitalist system to provide a sturdy infrastructure, from there the government would adapt more and more socialist policies over the years such as citizens being taxed proportionally according to their yearly income.

of course i believe that unless you are physically or mentally handicapped, you should only be given unemployment checks for 2 years(which will only be enough for the bare essentials) after that, if you dont have a job. you are on your own.

in my opinion, if you hope that one day a society such as this will acheived. then you are a communist.


I may be wrong, but did you stop reading my post after the first sentance? During the years of socialism, people were always "Building Communism" for the future generations. The idea of communism is great by itself, but it doesn't count the "human-factor" of our world, which kills it dead. (See why in my last post)
did you even read MY post? they all failed because they didnt slowly evolve TO a socialist state FROM a capitalist state with a strong economy.