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Mapping contest II, round 2: Contestant list up
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The Geologist
November 12, 2005, 1:39 am
Scroll down for new theme: HTF Swamp

Alright, this round of the contest is officially closed.

Here is the official list of round two contestants, in order of entry:

grand diablo - htf Moor - http://www.soldatforums.com/topic.asp?topic_id=29263

The Geologist - htf Muck - http://archive.forums.soldat.pl/topic.php?topic_id=29273

Dezonus - htf Swampy - http://www.soldatforums.com/topic.asp?topic_id=29321

Soulsnipa - htf Dagobah - http://www.soldatforums.com/topic.asp?topic_id=29324

OutofOrder - htf dangerous - http://www.soldatforums.com/topic.asp?topic_id=29341

rainrider - htf sumph - http://www.soldatforums.com/topic.asp?topic_id=29327

Sgt. Beaver - htf Pondious - http://www.soldatforums.com/topic.asp?topic_id=29377

rabidhamster - htf momus - http://archive.forums.soldat.pl/topic.php?topic_id=29271

semagae - htf bogged - http://www.soldatforums.com/topic.asp?topic_id=29494

Officer Bulbock - htf Hellbound - http://archive.forums.soldat.pl/topic.php?topic_id=29386

As you can see we have a full round this time, so more suggestions for voting are welcome. I'll give it a day or two and try and think up an easier method as well. Download these maps and check 'em out people.

Zarazas map was not included because he 1) quit and 2) made it before the contest. Perhaps this was said in earlier posts or by Demonic, but the maps are made for the contest. Pre-existing maps won't be accepted from here on out, or else what's the point of making a theme? Anyhoo..get to testing people.

lithium
November 12, 2005, 2:01 am
Good job Geo. That map deserved to win.

.Loki
November 12, 2005, 2:50 am
It's okay Geomancer, we all know that you rigged the contest in your favor, but we still love you anyways. ;o

Deleted User
November 12, 2005, 9:08 am
Told you. And whoever comented, that was because I looked at the votes, and saw that only one person put me for 1.

Soulsnipa
November 12, 2005, 10:31 am
just give a damn theme now..is it that hard.

Deleted User
November 12, 2005, 10:36 am
He was busy on friday, so he couldn't post anything soulsnipa, be patient.

(allthough geo posted on saturday :D)

Soulsnipa
November 12, 2005, 11:03 am
its not that hard tho, lets see...

metal dm

htf forest

ice ctf

fire inf

swamp dm

sky ctf

space inf

house htf

i just came up with a lot right there in 30 seconds

Deleted User
November 12, 2005, 11:34 am
How about something we can all do? Inf on ice was a good idea. Remember K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple Stupid). And is there like anything beter than just Congrats?

Soulsnipa
November 12, 2005, 11:47 am
how about star wars map contest :)

grand_diablo
November 12, 2005, 12:04 pm
be,h go away with StarWars please :P

congratz Geo, Iceberg deserves the win ;)

Soulsnipa
November 12, 2005, 12:30 pm
dont be sour

papasurf31
November 12, 2005, 1:37 pm
make the next theme jungle deathmatch PLS!

.Loki
November 12, 2005, 5:35 pm
Lol... maybe you should make a Pointmatch map contest, seeing as how it's supposed to be michal's favorite mode. Then again, I guess that'd just be the same as DM.

The Geologist
November 12, 2005, 5:58 pm
Some of us have a life off the computer, Soul. I posted that 10 minutes before I left for a physics review that ended up taking up the rest of my Friday night, so please...stfu if you're so impatient, mmkay? I got on here the moment I rolled out of bed today to announce this theme, and if that's not good enough, well...I don't particularly care.

New contest theme : Swampy* htf
New deadline : November 26, 2005. That's two weeks from today.

*All things misty, muddy, moist, dark and damp. Make the bayou, or the swampy banks of a lake with underwater routes, or anything else that comes to mind, so long as there's some water and some lush plant life. Almost jungle, but not quite.

The emphasis for the round is not on the style of gameplay, since all three of these styles generally play well on small DM style maps. If it becomes too much of an issue, the map style will be restricted to either pointmatch or htf, but I don't see it being too much of a problem. Does anyone else? If you have a single game mode you wish to see above the others, speak up. Otherwise, a small DM style map which supports these modes of gameplay will work just fine.

As for rewards...what would people like to see? I don't have the means to give someone a server, but if someone would be willing to host the winning maps on a server they're already running it would be highly appreciated. Until some more suggestions come up for a prize, I have little more to offer than a pat on the back. And besides..are you doing this for the prize, or out of a love of mapping? :p

Also, unless any new suggestions come up for the voting methods I will continue with the system Demonic set in motion. And, to clear up any conflict, ALL MAPS MUST BE SUBMITTED BEFORE THE DEADLINE. I will not argue about "well, I entered it on the day of the deadline, so it still counts". Get started early, and get the maps done before the deadline so I can create the topic with a valid list of entries to the contest. This will help things go smoothly in the end. When the deadline is approaching and I'm getting ready to shift over to voting mode, I'll announce the latest time at which I will accept maps.

That's all for now folks. Get to mapping!

Deleted User
November 12, 2005, 6:06 pm
htf/DM/PM swamp? Thats awesome. HTF is always better on a DM map (So many choke-points, so little time :D)

BTW how do you make a map play more than one mode? Is it like this: Inf, ctf_Swamp or something?

The Geologist
November 12, 2005, 6:14 pm
Well, it can work with inf and ctf if the map is balanced. All you need to do is put in regular player spawns, team spawns, as well as a yellow flag for those three modes. You can only choose one mode for the map to play in the game, but the map has the potential to be played under multiple modes if you change the prefix.

It may just be easier to make solely htf or DM style maps for the sake of the contest though.

Edit: For the sake of running this contest smoothly, I decided to just make it htf style play. However, there's nothing stopping you from putting in regular spawns to make the game playable via DM or pointmatch. For the sake of the contest, work for an htf style map. And yes, DM maps work great for htf play, so get crackin' ;P

Soulsnipa
November 12, 2005, 6:40 pm
ok good, yoda marshes ;)

Deleted User
November 12, 2005, 8:26 pm
This sounds hard, I don't have any ideas like the last one.
quote:BTW how do you make a map play more than one mode? Is it like this: Inf, ctf_Swamp or something
When your in soldat, type /map and then whatever your map is. Outpost is pretty cool with Rambomatch.

papasurf31
November 12, 2005, 10:33 pm
I'm in, I already have a map completed, just some finishing touches to make it swampy and adapt it ot HTF. I'm glad to see this contest continue.

.Loki
November 13, 2005, 8:45 pm
quote:Originally posted by papasurf31I'm in, I already have a map completed, just some finishing touches to make it swampy and adapt it ot HTF. I'm glad to see this contest continue.


Actually, that's against the rules. You're not supposed to enter an allready finished map. But whatever.

quote:I will not argue about "well, I entered it on the day of the deadline, so it still counts"

and lol.

Keron Cyst
November 13, 2005, 9:18 pm
You can't enter an already-finished map? Good. I just almost completed my first to-be-publicly-released map yesternight but have some touches to apply to it, even outside of this contest ;-D

1337. Count me in.

EDIT @Officer_Bulbock: Edit the mapslist.TXT (or wh'ever) in your Soldat directory after you select a game mode; then you can play DM maps in CTF, etc. :-P

So the winner of the previous contest always gets to announce the new theme of the next?

grand_diablo
November 13, 2005, 10:07 pm
Here we go, htf_Moor
http://www.soldatforums.com/topic.asp?topic_id=29263

final, except for missing waypoints.

Soulsnipa
November 13, 2005, 10:23 pm
im just waiting on scenery before i can finish mine

The Geologist
November 13, 2005, 11:57 pm
Wow...glad to see this round is getting along better than the last. If things keep up like this we'll have a healthy bunch of maps to choose from. If we get enough the current voting system would be a bit overwhelming, and something like a poll might be more appropriate..or an addition round to narrow down the competition. Oh well..let's see how things go for now. My map is almost done as well :o

papasurf31
November 14, 2005, 1:06 am
Wait, I lied. My map is nearly finished. But if things go my way, perhaps I won't be entering my map after all...

Soulsnipa
November 14, 2005, 1:10 am
flies said he would work on sml in a week or two.

rabidhamster
November 14, 2005, 2:58 am
yay mine's done! expect to see it soon.

Keron Cyst
November 14, 2005, 4:17 am
Can a mod move this, please? I keep checking all the map sections for this thread and just now remembered once more that it's in General Discussions...

EDIT You know what? I'm just gonna make a new map, start afresh specifically for this competition. If I try to alter a map's theme the change'll degrade from its original quality and besides I'll have two similar maps I'll have to work with in public dist. I'll just start on a brand new one. And BTW, The Geologist, I'm competing because I'm getting a prize for doing something that pwnz (although it has no real application in life) xD

The Geologist
November 14, 2005, 7:44 am
Hmm..I thought it would be easier to keep it here, so it was at the top of the page :/

If it's easier, I'm not opposed to moving this topic. Just as long as it doesn't get forgotten or passed by because people don't know where it is.

Here's my submission to the contest: http://archive.forums.soldat.pl/topic.php?topic_id=29273
Overview

Soulsnipa
November 14, 2005, 11:55 am
will i get deducted points if its star wars themed btw?

im waiting on some scenery to be made as i said. But would u rather have a version without the star wars added to it. Although it prolly wont look as cool, will people give a worse rating?

grand_diablo
November 14, 2005, 1:35 pm
well, I think you can enter if its some swampy Star Wars related theme. And im sure there must be some swampy planets in the SW universe. (Its up to Geo for accepting the map or not though)

On the other hand...
bleh, go away with StarWars :PP

GAMEOVER
November 14, 2005, 2:08 pm
quote:Originally posted by grand_diablo
bleh, go away with StarWars :PP

Soulsnipa
November 14, 2005, 2:17 pm
unless convinced ill release a v1 of my map then convert it to star wars because of the negativity.


At least now I can concentrate on the polygons and making it look good, and releasing sooner than expected.

The Geologist
November 14, 2005, 3:21 pm
The theme of this round of mapping is a an htf based swamp map. Not a Star wars map. Depart from the everyday for two moments, shall we? Now, if you can make it a Star wars swamp map, I don't see any reason to knock off points...but a straight Star Wars map with no swamp prolly won't get entered.

Deleted User
November 14, 2005, 3:37 pm
I dont have an entry and mapping is'nt one of my fav things, but I just wanted to thank you for orginizing this Geo. I hate all the HTF maps that come with the new version, and I'm hoping to get some nice ones out of this next round :) Along with the other types of maps. Do you think you could do a semy populated HTF maps with a couple buildings, bridges etc, nothing to exessive, but a little dabble of urban warfare :)

The Geologist
November 14, 2005, 3:40 pm
Hmmm..sounds like a possibility for a theme to me. And I'm only continueing that which Demonic started and, as a result, putting a bit of my own spin on it..yet you're welcome regardless. I should hope that this contest brings out the best of the community in terms of the caliber of maps produced.

Deleted User
November 14, 2005, 4:53 pm
Maybie when we have, lets say two winner maps of each type (if it lasts that long)
we could make a Mappack and sticky it.

A possible reward.

Keron Cyst
November 14, 2005, 8:26 pm
How did you get to choose? Just make the prize the ability to set the next contest's theme so it's a never-ending loop of crazed competition xD

Soulsnipa
November 14, 2005, 9:35 pm
well obviously my star wars map would be a swamp...im not that stupid lol.

Deleted User
November 14, 2005, 9:51 pm
quote:Originally posted by Keron CystHow did you get to choose? Just make the prize the ability to set the next contest's theme so it's a never-ending loop of crazed competition xD


I thought i made it clear it was only a suggestion...

Deleted User
November 15, 2005, 7:40 am
I have one the right half and middle done (no scenery....yet) Just have to do the other side. It seems very CTFy though.

Deleted User
November 16, 2005, 1:20 am
My map is finished, I need to test and upload now. This time it's well shaded, and the darken vertices button got a lot of use. Mainly posting this to revive the topic.

rabidhamster
November 16, 2005, 1:32 am
editing your post does revive the topic.

Hoodlum
November 16, 2005, 2:08 am
quote:Originally posted by grand_diablowell, I think you can enter if its some swampy Star Wars related theme. And im sure there must be some swampy planets in the SW universe. (Its up to Geo for accepting the map or not though)Yeah I am pretty sure Yoda lives in a swamp anyway so I suggest maybe you do that.

Soulsnipa
November 16, 2005, 2:14 am
yes i know thats what i originally said, map name is dagobah.

Deleted User
November 16, 2005, 11:38 am
Done guys
http://www.soldatforums.com/topic.asp?topic_id=29321

Soulsnipa
November 16, 2005, 1:50 pm
Done as well:
http://www.soldatforums.com/topic.asp?topic_id=29324

Soulsnipa
November 16, 2005, 1:50 pm
Dezonus, could I suggest working a little bit more on your map?

OutofOrder
November 17, 2005, 8:12 am
I've done a map for the contest too :D
http://www.soldatforums.com/topic.asp?topic_id=29341


rainrider
November 17, 2005, 9:47 am
http://www.soldatforums.com/topic.asp?topic_id=29327 (no wp yet)

Soulsnipa
November 17, 2005, 3:33 pm
http://sml.u13.net?p=mapupload

If you could start uploading there, I should be getting the rating system fixed to accomodate this contest.

Keron Cyst
November 17, 2005, 6:44 pm
Dang it, please move this thread! I always scour the three mapping forums for this thing and keep forgetting it's under GD ¬¬

I'm dropping out of the contest. There's not enough time to get a good map going, so I'll just show my map (which wasn't swamp-themed anyways) as a plain release.

Thus I'm now available for wypting. but I'm only doing those that I want to (basically which I deem 1337 enough for my wypts. :-D) so I don't get bombarded with requests and fail to complete any of them.

Soulsnipa
November 17, 2005, 7:04 pm
skip my hoth map and just do my newest map. I'm going to prolly fix up hoth anyway

Deleted User
November 18, 2005, 8:32 pm
Me and my map ---> |enter|


(We have tons of $, that is if you vote)

zaraza
November 19, 2005, 4:54 pm
DM_Wod by zaraza http://www.soldatforums.com/topic.asp?topic_id=29398

[edit] Whaaaa?! I didn't know it's only htf contest :/ I quit :S[/edit]

Deleted User
November 19, 2005, 5:18 pm
quote:Originally posted by zarazaDM_Wod by zaraza http://www.soldatforums.com/topic.asp?topic_id=29398


You should first edit it to htf (spawns and name)...

rainrider
November 21, 2005, 2:45 pm
zaraza: u already posted that map on polish forum a long time ago.

Soulsnipa
November 21, 2005, 3:04 pm
he stated that in his post

rabidhamster
November 23, 2005, 7:20 pm
momus for you.
topic_id=29271

v1.1 beta, wait for final version release. btw, waypointed by semagae.

EDIT: v1.1 released! go to topic for new download.

Deleted User
November 24, 2005, 4:43 am
Lots of maps this time. I don't know why I can't do stacked maps.

The Geologist
November 24, 2005, 5:04 pm
Stacked maps?

Edit: Okay people, you have exactly 24 hours left to enter your maps. The current time is 10 am MST. You have 24 hour hours. Any maps submitted after this deadline will not be accepted as I need to create a topic and gather all the download/map topic links together. No whiners. You've had two weeks to enter your maps, so doing it at the last minute of the last day is no excuse.

I'll probably just re-use this topic, unless people would like me to start another?

Soulsnipa
November 24, 2005, 6:09 pm
start another

Deleted User
November 24, 2005, 6:25 pm
Well just let us vote here,
and also edit the first post so we know the contestants,
and then when we have a new winner and a theme,
start a new thread.

Deleted User
November 24, 2005, 8:58 pm
mine- http://www.soldatforums.com/topic.asp?topic_id=29494

close enough to done :P

Deleted User
November 24, 2005, 11:13 pm
quote:Originally posted by The GeologistStacked maps?
All my maps are flat. Most of everyone else's are stacked/pilled up. I can't seem to do them. I wonder where I'll come this time? probably same as last time.

The Geologist
November 24, 2005, 11:21 pm
Maybe you should try practicing more with your maps before entering them. Just because some of us got maps out in the first few days doesn't mean you can. It was a while before I could make platforms or good multi-level routes. You have two weeks for these contests..make use of the full two weeks next time, experient, and practice practice practice. The only way you'll learn what's good is by seeing what works and what doesn't.

Deleted User
November 25, 2005, 3:35 am
meh, its an okay map-
http://archive.forums.soldat.pl/topic.php?topic_id=29494

i'm fixing it up a little :P

Deleted User
November 25, 2005, 6:57 am
At least I entered. But hey, If I didn't see any of your maps, I would have thought mine was pretty dam cool.

Deleted User
November 25, 2005, 6:12 pm
mine or everyones?
but yea, at least you enterd
your maps okay :)

Soulsnipa
November 25, 2005, 8:08 pm
idono if i can wake up flies long enough to see to fix it. The bug should be very minor

OutofOrder
November 26, 2005, 8:21 am
Suggestion!
Geologist, what if you ask someone to host all and only these maps in a temporary server, so anyone can join and test.
The server address could be published either here or at the servers forum. It shouldn't be made a public server since it would be hosted for the interested people, and i mean the voters, not just anyone.
I haven't been around these forums for long, but it seems you could get some hosters willing to help for this contest.

As for the voting method, i don't see wrong in the actual one.

Those are my 2 cents :) Good luck to all the mappers :p

Deleted User
November 26, 2005, 8:46 am
Ummm, why isn't my map on the list 0_o
Its called Htf_Hellbound
(Get the 2.0 version please ;D)

Deleted User
November 26, 2005, 1:13 pm
So whens voting? I think I might do beter than I originally thought.

Deleted User
November 26, 2005, 1:24 pm
Dezonus just read the first post, and everything will become clearer to you...

grand_diablo
November 26, 2005, 2:14 pm
I might add that there is already a wped version of Moor (WPs by Keron Cyst):
http://home.ripway.com/2004-11/197885/htf_Moor.PMS

Ill replace the older version on my webspace once I got some new traffic to use (Dec-1)

The Geologist
November 26, 2005, 6:27 pm
quote:Originally posted by Officer_BulbockUmmm, why isn't my map on the list 0_o
Its called Htf_Hellbound
(Get the 2.0 version please ;D)


It got left out because you didn't enter it in this contest. I used maps/mappers that entered the contest through this topic. That was the point of this topic..to keep people centralized so I didn't have to flip through the mapping forum to find all the new maps. Next round please make sure you actually enter the contest in the contest topic. I'll let it slide this time, but this is the exception. Next round if anyone fails to enter the topic by the deadline, they don't get in. Harsh, but rules are rules.


quote:Originally posted by OutofOrderSuggestion!
Geologist, what if you ask someone to host all and only these maps in a temporary server, so anyone can join and test.
The server address could be published either here or at the servers forum. It shouldn't be made a public server since it would be hosted for the interested people, and i mean the voters, not just anyone.
I haven't been around these forums for long, but it seems you could get some hosters willing to help for this contest.

As for the voting method, i don't see wrong in the actual one.

Those are my 2 cents :) Good luck to all the mappers :p


That would be awesome. Anyone able to host these maps in their server rotation? It would go a long way to promote testing these maps before voting. Good idea.

Deleted User
November 26, 2005, 9:03 pm
Sorry Geo, I din't realise we had to post in the topic :|

The Geologist
November 26, 2005, 9:08 pm
No worries, it was my own fault for not making it specific. I thought it was implied, but that's just me ;) All is well with the force.

Deleted User
November 28, 2005, 11:05 am
quote:Originally posted by Sgt. BeaverDezonus just read the first post, and everything will become clearer to you...

Ok, I read it, and I reckon this time we vote for our 3 favourite. 1=4 points 2=2 and 3=1 point. Should be much easier. And do open a new topic for it.

Keron Cyst
November 28, 2005, 6:56 pm
I really think you should start another thread. This is getting way too cramped.

htf_Muck FTW B-) Then grand_diablo's htf_Moor, and rainrider's htf_Sumpf. The others aren't worth mentioning.

xP

Deleted User
November 29, 2005, 1:08 am
Thats not very nice

Soulsnipa
November 29, 2005, 1:21 am
nope its not especially since he doesnt know how to map himself, but everyones got their own opinions. No one ever said his waypointing was great enough to mention either.

Deleted User
November 29, 2005, 3:09 am
did you waypoint all those maps keron :P

Soulsnipa
November 29, 2005, 3:43 am
thats my guess lol

Deleted User
November 29, 2005, 10:55 am
No, he didn't. Thats why swampy aint (I can't do it, its too confusing).

Deleted User
November 29, 2005, 1:41 pm
quote:Originally posted by Keron CystI really think you should start another thread. This is getting way too cramped.

htf_Muck FTW B-) Then grand_diablo's htf_Moor, and rainrider's htf_Sumpf. The others aren't worth mentioning.

xP


Wow keron, i allways thought you were more mature and diplomatic...

The Geologist
November 29, 2005, 7:33 pm
Alright, let's not drag this topic off course. Voting will begin tomorrow, I'll create a new topic, and unless anyone has any new ideas for the voting system it will most likely be similar to last time.

Also, that's one f*cked up avatar Soul...over the size limit as well.

Can a mod lock this?

OutofOrder
November 29, 2005, 8:11 pm
no maps being hosted? aw ;(

The Geologist
November 29, 2005, 8:40 pm
Oh yeah! Hosting maps...in my haste I had forgotten to ask. I'll try to get these maps hosted on a server. Anyone know of who I could ask? I had a few ideas in mind, so I'll PM and try to get some results before opening the next topic.

Deleted User
November 29, 2005, 10:17 pm
quote:Originally posted by DezonusOk, I read it, and I reckon this time we vote for our 3 favourite. 1=4 points 2=2 and 3=1 point. Should be much easier. And do open a new topic for it.

Whats wrong with my voting idea? And I'd try Leo's (I assume he has a HTF server).

The Geologist
November 29, 2005, 11:13 pm
Nothing. Something like that was probably going to be used just to make the whole process smoother. Sinc we have so many I might make it the four favorite maps, something similar to thelast round of voting. It makes no difference if its a question of the most points or the least points.

Deleted User
November 29, 2005, 11:25 pm
No, make the voting for gameplay and looks,
every voter then gives a overall score.

So if the looks and gameplay points are the same at two maps,
the overall descides, which is the best.

Deleted User
November 30, 2005, 12:38 am
thats a good idea, but i think we would rate our % differently, we 10/10, could be the same as someones 7/10, we might rate differently, forget that though :)



*in before lock!*

Deleted User
November 30, 2005, 5:41 am
quote:Originally posted by Sgt. BeaverNo, make the voting for gameplay and looks,
every voter then gives a overall score.

So if the looks and gameplay points are the same at two maps,
the overall descides, which is the best.

Too complex with so many maps

OutofOrder
November 30, 2005, 5:37 pm
I do like Dezonus' idea for voting. It's very simple and effective, you just need to be clear about what to have in mind when voting.

Although i disagree on his scoring method: i'd say 1st map pick gets 3 points, 2nd pick gets 2, 3rd gets 1.
The lesser the difference in the method, the more realistic results you get...

Btw contesters won't vote, right? Wanted to clear this doubt.

Keron Cyst
November 30, 2005, 7:33 pm
I do like Dezonus's idea. We just vote for whichever maps we think are best, and just totally exclude maps we've never heard of or think are of really poor quality.

@The Geologist: you spelled rainrider's map wrong; it's htf_Sumpf, not "sumph" :-P

1. The Geologist's htf_Muck
2. grand diablo's htf_Moor
3. rainrider's htf_Sumpf
4. Soulsnipa's htf_Dagobah
5. rabidhamster's htf_Momus
6. semagae's htf_Bogged (because he's a wypter. like me :-D)

Sorry, semagae: I can't be too favoring, now...

Deleted User
December 1, 2005, 2:29 am
no prob :P
there maps are better anyway :P
-will be edited :P

Deleted User
December 1, 2005, 11:57 am
How about us contestants can vote for the other maps. And all contestants must vote.

Deleted User
December 2, 2005, 12:01 am
based on gameplay/atmosphere
best to really good :P
1 - 5

#1 htf_dogabah - soulsnipa

#2 htf_momus - rabidhamster

#3 htf_moor - grand diablo

#4 htf_bogged - semagae

#5 htf_Pondious - sgt. Beaver


none were bad btw :D

The Geologist
December 2, 2005, 12:45 am
No voting on your own map. Hold your votes for the new topic, which is being created after I post this in the Mapping section of the forums.

Lock please. lol..wish I could do it myself ;o

Deleted User
December 2, 2005, 1:12 am
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