I have started a new game project some time ago. I would like to announce it here because I'm seeking people to help me out with it. I've set a temporary website (http://www.soldat.pl/crimson) where all the info is.
This does not mean I'm quitting Soldat or anything like that. I've always been doing other stuff and it didn't stop me from releasing new versions from time to time. More info on this project and Soldat later.

Dogfighting? You're just thinking of ways to kill my social life, aren't you?

Eh, if I learned how to used DeleD, I might be able to map for you.

I hardly understand the concept of your project but I wish you good luck! (3D ughhh...)

cool site...

Awesome.....

Can we see concept sketchs of gameplay or anything? I don't really understand how it will play like Soldat but be 3D. Maybe I'd get it if I knew of the other game alluded to.

Very cool Michal id be glad to test it out and maybe play but I dont think theres a better game out there for me then Soldat, long live Soldat!

This sounds great! Soldat with 3D graphics...hrmm...!!!

That's hot, but ehhh I'm not sure about everyone else. It's a complicated project to think about unless your pro (which I'm not).

Wow, this sounds awesome, so well be able to shoot around in planes but it looks like soldat :P

Michal I say you should try it, doesnt hurt to try new things.

Id love to be one of the people who can help you out, cant wait to see what you might come up with :)

i look foward to seeing how this develops :D

sounds fun, i've always wanted a decent dogfighting game. my only question though: will there be islands and boats you can weave around (and crash into)?

Dogfighting? Planes? VEHICLES!? OMFG!

Sounds awesome, I hope the best of luck to your new project.

Cool. I'll be willing to help if needed.

What file types will you be using reguarding models and textures? I can model some crap for ya if you need :)

 Quote:Originally posted by GAMEOVERVery cool Michal id be glad to test it out and maybe play but I dont think theres a better game out there for me then Soldat, long live Soldat!


ME TOO, id love to test it out as well!!!

Sign me up for Beta Test, but that's a whole different story.

MM, a few early questions that you should be able to answer:
What is your estimate on how many planes (players) this game will support per server?
What are some of the game modes that you are planning to create, and will there be a custom game mode option?
Will there be different roles of planes (Recon, Stealth, Fighters, Bombers...etc)?
Will there be land or sea targets?
If so, will players be able to control these units?

Holy crap :o sounds awesome.

err if its 3d....i hate my computer..

I always loved a bit of multiplayer gaming on Crimson Skies.

http://www.microsoft.com/games/crimsonskies/img/screens/under_bridge.jpg <--s'what it looked like.

A side-scrolling version of that, which is what this sounds like, would be pretty cool. (I demand Zepellins)

Maybe you should try setting up a team like that for Soldat, but I suggest you experiment with that new project first heh , better screw one than two in the worst case.
Anyway, if you need help regarding that website I'll be glad to help you out.

Grtz , DePhille

Thanks for supporting me, I'll answer a few questions without givng anything away/
 Quote:Can we see concept sketchs of gameplay or anything? I don't really understand how it will play like Soldat but be 3D
That's good :). Basically it uses 3D models for rendering like any other game but the camera is fixed to 2D like in Soldat.

 Quote:will there be islands and boats you can weave around (and crash into)?
Yeah that's why I need mappers.

 Quote:What file types will you be using regarding models and textures?
All major file types are supported, it isn't a problem because there are always exporters. Also you don't need DeleD for the maps because you can import 3DS file for example.

 Quote:What is your estimate on how many planes (players) this game will support per server?
As many as possible.

 Quote:What are some of the game modes that you are planning to create, and will there be a custom game mode option?
As many as possible.

 Quote:Will there be different roles of planes (Recon, Stealth, Fighters, Bombers...etc)?
As many as possible :).

 Quote:Will there be land or sea targets?
 Quote:If so, will players be able to control these units?
There will be infantry for sure. The interesting part of this game will be that you will spawn as a normal soldier and getting into a plane is just an option. Something like 2D Battlefield 1942.

 Quote:A side-scrolling version of that, which is what this sounds like, would be pretty cool. (I demand Zepellins)
Zepellins must be!

Dam i wish i would be more talented artist..
P.S Be sure to include a mapmaker;)

Edit: I wannabe one of beta-testers too! :)

Wohoo i hope its good game

<3 Triplane turmoil

This is going to be the bestest!

Any other thing for me to addict on.

OMFG THa God has spoken...

Edit: Me wanna beta test 2

YAY sign me up for beta testing!!! OMG OMG i cant wait ^_^

I WANT TO BETATEST!


question: will there be any real physics like the one in soldat?

ah man awesome.. you have no idea how much I loved triplane turmoil!

YAYAYA! Dogfighting... Triplane Turmoil... One of the best Finnish games I played with my friends when I was about 8-9 years... Ah, the old times... :]

What's the poly limit on the airplanes? >:D

Wow, this is great. Best of luck on this project. ;)

EDIT I think I would like to assist with graphics. I might send an e-mail later.

How about we begin sketches of maps that we would like to see on this game, and perhaps give MM an idea of what type of maps we're thinking of?

This sounds great. =D
Best of luck with this new project I look forward to a new game as addicting as Soldat.

I'll be a beta tester if you need one PM me or email me at alisonrutter@bigpond.com

Wow. That sounds awesome! If I can, I would like to Beta test for this game.

*offtopic* but UGK ur egg is meant to hatch March 1 2006 and its that time...

ot: yeah, those eggs are retard (french word retard, means slow/late).

on topic: michal, will there be "layers" that will take advantage of the 3d graphics? for instance, a building that cannot be passed unless the plane weaves behind it?

Great idea MM, I hope you have success with it such as that you have had with soldat.

 Quote:Originally posted by Michal Marcinkowski Quote:Will there be land or sea targets?
 Quote:If so, will players be able to control these units?
There will be infantry for sure. The interesting part of this game will be that you will spawn as a normal soldier and getting into a plane is just an option. Something like 2D Battlefield 1942.

Wait, you mean...like Soldat, except with vehicles?

:D

(and better graphics and no jetboots ¬_¬)

Cool, there was no good dogfighting game since Crimson Skies :p

sounds really cool Michal, approximately how long do you think it would take to come up with the first version after you have your full team?

This project sounds awesome. And knowing your other works (heehee), it will probably be great too. :P

PS. I didn't notice the e-mail address on the website so I just PM'd you.

I must say It sounds very cool. Although I didn't fully understand some parts of the soldat upgrades, It is one of the most played games on the internet. I'm sure you'll do great also here. Good luck on this one.
Greetz, Teh Smiem

Awesome, I can't wait! :D

 Quote:Wait, you mean...like Soldat, except with vehicles?
Well.. yes!

 Quote:approximately how long do you think it would take to come up with the first version after you have your full team?
I think I should have a playable network beta before summer. A lot depends now if I find good artists.

Ahaha, great. You'll finally shut up all the people who keep asking for vehicles in soldat. :)

I can do some moderately good pixel art, so I can help with stuff if you don't already have enough people to help.

Great...

Love thats you decide to keep a 2d point of view!
Il get a look at deled see if I can help on the map making...

Id like to know wich game are your inspiration for the plane control??)(will the plane go fast or control like helicopter?)

What kind of map do you plan making (wouldnt they be BIG since were controlling plane?)

Will there be other vehicule then plane?

Cant wait to see how it turns out.

Good luck with your project... You OWN.

Hmm how do you mean? 2d and 3d togheter?

Like this?

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of course not. the soldiers would be 3d as well.

nice plane, btw.

Wonder if you can have multiple people in one plane ....like one acting as a tailgunner or on a turret like a small B17.

Yeah that will be cool. And thanks rapid ^_^ lol

 Quote:- pixel art (2D sprites: clouds, vegetation, particle effects, etc...)
I could do something, but I have to ask so that I can do some examples of my skills, what size of 2d-pixel art you need? Should they be like the scenery-gfx in soldat?

ps. Sorry for my bad english :P

 Quote:Originally posted by Michal Marcinkowski Quote:Wait, you mean...like Soldat, except with vehicles?
Well.. yes!

 Quote:approximately how long do you think it would take to come up with the first version after you have your full team?
I think I should have a playable network beta before summer. A lot depends now if I find good artists.


MUST WAIT TO BETA TEST...must be patient...... :)

Hey, wait. What kind of view is this? You said it's 2D with 3D graphics, but on the temporary Crimson page you put a link to a 3D graphics modeling program. What camera angle is Crimson Glory from?

Perhaps he means that it looks like Duke Nukem: Manhattan Project

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A side-scroller with 3D graphics.

that would be cool for soldat!!!

A platform game is a waste of a 3d engine.

Boolean = False. Alot of 2d games use 3d engines to achieve better depth and perspective. (First game that comes to mind is Gunbound)

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!! i have someone else that agrees!!! thx leo da lunerfox :D

GL! I couldn't help this project by my poor skill. Anyways conglatulations!
And there is a similar dogfight game like the project (http://www.forest.impress.co.jp/article/2003/05/30/thewingbluff.html)

 Quote:Originally posted by SwebonnyHmm how do you mean? 2d and 3d togheter?

Like this?

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Wow Swebonny you want to make graphics for my game? :p

I managed to find a download link for this Wing Bluff game, we'll see.
I recently found this game: http://dogfight.kuto.de/df_zukunft.html, it's pretty fun if you get past the german interface. Unfortunatelly it doesn't have realistic physics.

Oh, whew, so it is. At first I thought this would be a FPS, lol.

 Quote:Originally posted by Keron CystOh, whew, so it is. At first I thought this would be a FPS, lol.


lol!!

 Quote:Originally posted by KoonA platform game is a waste of a 3d engine.

No it isn't. I've seen many platform- or top-down-games using 3d engine. I love those games. For example [URL].
but Michal,  Quote:I could do something, but I have to ask so that I can do some examples of my skills, what size of 2d-pixel art you need? Should they be like the scenery-gfx in soldat?
:)

good luck :)

aye i love the way it sounds (the whole bf1942 effect).....i would gladly help if you adctually need a team...if you for some reason decide to recruit me on this project...just pm me....althought there are lots of other that are willing to help you too keep all of us in mind

 Quote:Originally posted by Sethamundoaye i love the way it sounds (the whole bf1942 effect).....i would gladly help if you adctually need a team...if you for some reason decide to recruit me on this project...just pm me....althought there are lots of other that are willing to help you too keep all of us in mind


LIKE ME!!!! lol!

perhaps you could add vehicles to soldat if this works out :3

Good job man! Making other games expands more one's creativity and time!
I'm shure this game will work as well as Soldat.

I'm no fan of flying games, but then again, I didn't like any 2d shooters before Soldat. C'mon Michal, work your magic!

 Quote:Originally posted by KoonI'm no fan of flying games, but then again, I didn't like any 2d shooters before Soldat. C'mon Michal, work your magic!
amen to that

I downloaded DeleD and i'm starting to learn it so i can do mapping in general! Good work,Michal. Love ya stuff ;)

What about a plane like this : http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/9602/plane4hy.png

oooooo, nice but it will be 2d so a plane like that in 3d will only really be seen if it did a barrel roll or something like that

I thought this was going to be a 3d game? It says so on the site.

"Gameplay will be similar to Triplane Turmoil and Soldat but with 3D graphics"

Taken from the site, so it will be like soldat 2D view but the objects will be in 3D.

Nice Work Michal I hope it is finished soon.

 Quote:Originally posted by KoonI'm no fan of flying games, but then again, I didn't like any 2d shooters before Soldat. C'mon Michal, work your magic!



COOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEE
GGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNN

A view like in a side scroller game?
Ok here a Video: http://pielmann.googlepages.com/preview_plane.avi

PsY, email that to michal marcinkowski if you made it. he wants all the help he can get.

PsY@ that video didn't work for me?.. why is that?

Question:
Why not incorporate this into Soldat? Imagine a war on the ground, sea, and air!

Another question:
I know this has already been asked (well... not really...), but is Soldat going to have vehicles?

 Quote:Originally posted by SpideyAnother question:
I know this has already been asked (well... not really...), but is Soldat going to have vehicles?

no.

 Quote:Originally posted by HHHthat video didn't work for me?.. why is that?

download some video codecs. google "divx codec" + download.

 Quote:Originally posted by papasurf31perhaps you could add vehicles to soldat if this works out :3

I don't think so; it sounds like the terrain in CG is going to have almost no floating boulders whatsoever.

Lol sounds exciting!
Vehicles FTW!!!
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@HHH : It is an ".avi" video.
Ok i will upload it a secound time as an quicktime movie.
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@vice : hehe funny

@PsY: i tried to use winamp, and windows media player, but no result.

Wow PsY nice.

MM this sounds great! What about sounds and them songs are you doing those?

 Quote:Originally posted by rabidhamster
 Quote:Originally posted by HHHthat video didn't work for me?.. why is that?

download some video codecs. google "divx codec" + download.

!!!

I have a few segestions for game modes

The basics a must have for all games

Deathmatch
TeamDeath Match
Capture the flag

My ideas

Base Assault - Team 1 attacks team 2's base by air while team 2 defends by land.

Escort - Team 1 Escorts a large plane carring a vip to the safe zone while team 2 tries to destroy the plane carring the vip before it reaches the safe zone.

Extraction - Team 1 must retrive a hostage from within the base of team 2 within a time limit. if the hostage is killed the team that killed the hostage loses.

E-mail from Marcinkowski:



I suspect it will be relatively similar to Super Smash Bros. Melee from Nintendo GameCube.

I guess it will be similar to the screenshot of Duke Nukem Manhattan Project that someone posted.
The scenery is all 3D.. you can see the depth.. but the viewport is 2D and the game is still a sidescroller.
Even if the map has a Z axis (since it is 3D), the character/plane only moves on the X and Y axis.

Anyway, nice to hear you're working on something new Michal!
Wish you good luck on this new project. And please.. USE TCP PROTOCOL THIS TIME (because UDP sucks)!!!
Edit: I also hope you give us a better resolution than 640x480. :D

 Quote:Originally posted by DeMoAnd please.. USE TCP PROTOCOL THIS TIME (because UDP sucks)!!!

TCP is useless for real-time communications. The whole point of UDP is that it has very little overhead, meaning it's quick and suited to games and streaming media.

Oh, and good luck, etc., MM.

BTW, will you be using things like OpenGL, SDL, or something to make it a little easier to make ports to other OS's?

Hey Michal! Do you think than *.ms3D (milkshape3D file) modeling can be useful for your next game 'cause I'm making slowly a missile and can try to make more if you want.

Here the model of the first missile I'm making. It's not textured 'cause it's the first time I make 3d modeling (except map making) and I still need to learn how to add the texture to the model.

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Model in milkshape ===> http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/7203/learning3d8sz.jpg

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Real info in the missile ===> http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/15/nordas112hg.jpg

thats way too big guil

The missile can be scaled! But in this case, it's not too big, it seem big because the grid change when zooming. If you scroll back a lot, you will see the missile way smaller vs the grid.


P.S. My missile is now finished. Putting a texture on a model is hard but it look kinda sweet. :)

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Say hello to the full image of the Nord AS11 air to surface missile in milkshape.
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/9412/finishednordas117fo.jpg


EDIT: Characteristics of the missile.

Diameter: 164 mm
Span: 500 mm
Longitude : 1'21 meters
Weight: 30 kg
Velocity : 580 km/h
Range: 3 km

 Quote:Originally posted by frogboy Quote:Originally posted by DeMoAnd please.. USE TCP PROTOCOL THIS TIME (because UDP sucks)!!!

TCP is useless for real-time communications. The whole point of UDP is that it has very little overhead, meaning it's quick and suited to games and streaming media.

Oh, and good luck, etc., MM.


Do you think professional game studios rely on UDP for their multiplayer games? Hell no!! Take Valve as an example, UDP is only used to query the Steam master server (their "lobby"), the rest of the data exchanged between client and server is all TCP. That's the same with every other professional game.

UDP data may be smaller and simpler but UDP doesn't have packet checking.. this means that if by some reason one packet doesn't arrive at the server the client never sends it again and vice-versa, that's why sometimes you shoot people on Soldat and they never die.. because of packets there were not registered at the server.

TCP on the other hand always checks if the packet has arrived at its destination, and if not.. it is sent again. It is a little more complicated but if Michal is making a new game I don't see a reason for him not using a more professional network code. At least I don't want this new game to be based on Soldat's netcode and then suffer from the same annoying problems (like invisible grenades.. shots that dont kill, flags that arent captured when you pass over them and bla bla bla). :P

want to take part in beta-testing plz!!

 Quote:Originally posted by InoXwant to take part in beta-testing plz!!


That kind of attitude won't get you nowhere...

Hey guil!
How long've you been a milky user?

@HHH : Sorry I can't upload the video , its to big.
But here a screenshot:
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Fullscreen: http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/6311/plane9zb.jpg

 Quote:Hey guil!
How long've you been a milky user?

About one day! :) I got it like 2 years ago and never use it. So I got it again yesterday to make the missile with help of tutorials.

Heh, the only 3D modeling I've ever done was some messing around in Anim8or :P



...At any rate, I wish ya all the luck in the world with this new project, MM. I'd offer to help with some sort of 2D artwork, as I've got a (legal) copy of Adobe Illustrator CS2, but I can't guarantee that I'd be able to get the work done very dependably :P




...Oh, and some questions:

What kind of modding/customizing capabilities are you planning on? Can we expect anything like the equivalent of custom gosteks?

What kinds of graphical effects will be supported? Particle effects are a given, due to the 3D graphics, I figure; but are there plans for any sprite-based graphics to be able to use alpha-blending and lighting effects? Also, what 2D file formats can we expect to be dealing with?

Lastly, what do you think about the idea of using a vector graphics format, such as SVG, for the GUI? I'm just wondering, as I imagine the scalability of vectors for the GUI, combined with the scalability of the 3D graphics, would make it much easier to support as many different display resolutions as possible... Of course, I'm not exactly an expert in game design and programming, so I have no idea if it's feasible or not.



Alrighty, thanks!

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Just a sample of peemonkey's modeling style.

whoa, very impressive peemonkey. Amazing detail.

I think it looks like a close up of a lego knife :P

I just want a nice little bit of participation is all, it's a promissing idea, and it's a promissing game because it's michal. I've gone ahead and taught myself high to medium to low poly modeling with at least some goodyness to it. Planes and bombs and building and whathaveyou should present no problem at all :)

 Quote:Originally posted by DeMo Quote:Originally posted by frogboy Quote:Originally posted by DeMoAnd please.. USE TCP PROTOCOL THIS TIME (because UDP sucks)!!!

TCP is useless for real-time communications. The whole point of UDP is that it has very little overhead, meaning it's quick and suited to games and streaming media.

Oh, and good luck, etc., MM.


Do you think professional game studios rely on UDP for their multiplayer games? Hell no!! Take Valve as an example, UDP is only used to query the Steam master server (their "lobby"), the rest of the data exchanged between client and server is all TCP. That's the same with every other professional game.

UDP data may be smaller and simpler but UDP doesn't have packet checking.. this means that if by some reason one packet doesn't arrive at the server the client never sends it again and vice-versa, that's why sometimes you shoot people on Soldat and they never die.. because of packets there were not registered at the server.

TCP on the other hand always checks if the packet has arrived at its destination, and if not.. it is sent again. It is a little more complicated but if Michal is making a new game I don't see a reason for him not using a more professional network code. At least I don't want this new game to be based on Soldat's netcode and then suffer from the same annoying problems (like invisible grenades.. shots that dont kill, flags that arent captured when you pass over them and bla bla bla). :P


You're mistaken. Nobody that is making a game for more than 2 players uses TCP. Valve doesn't use UDP. It's just that they have a system to detect missing packets. It's called reliable UDP messages. Soldat did have something like that in the very first versions, but it caused a lot of problems like packet multiplication and bandwidth problems. I didn't realyl have time to fix it so I dropped the idea and made the code based on unreliable packets. I don't know if it would be better to make Soldat with reliable packets. It might be more precise when it comes to hits but maybe it wouldn't be playable for large amounts of people playing on one server. I'm going to try reliable UDP completely in this new project, we'll se how it works.

 Quote:
What kind of modding/customizing capabilities are you planning on? Can we expect anything like the equivalent of custom gosteks?

The game will be completely moddable. I don't know how much level of customisation I can get from gosteks because the main focus will be on planes. But I want it to be as customizable as possible.

 Quote:
What kinds of graphical effects will be supported? Particle effects are a given, due to the 3D graphics, I figure; but are there plans for any sprite-based graphics to be able to use alpha-blending and lighting effects? Also, what 2D file formats can we expect to be dealing with?


The rendering engine uses Irrlicht (http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/), so anything it supports the game will support. Check it out.


About vehicles:
I got vehicles working in this game I'm working on. It will be possible for any kind of machinery to work in this game. I made a working jeep and I must say it isn't that fun. If you want jeeps or tanks in Soldat it isn't really what you want. You must realise that when you're riding a jeep in a 2D game you're moving in 1D really. You just press forward and backwards. That is not fun. Planes are fun or soldier with jetpacks.


If you post your work here, please e-mail me because I can't keep track of who you are. So don't be shy just mail me with a sample of your work and I'll consider you.

I dunno ...some ground vehicles could be fun. Like an armoured personnel carrier. Something that could take a few bombs and explosive hits before being shredded, and perfect for providing cover to humble soldiers behind it.

Still you're right in a way. I'd rather pilot a zeppelin and crash it into an enemies spawn point. \m/

 Quote:Originally posted by Sgt. Beaver Quote:Originally posted by InoXwant to take part in beta-testing plz!!


That kind of attitude won't get you nowhere...


i dont want to do anything in this project. I just want to do beta-testing its true, but i want. If they dont chose me i'll survive :o

 Quote:Originally posted by Michal Marcinkowski... I got vehicles working in this game I'm working on. It will be possible for any kind of machinery to work in this game. I made a working jeep and I must say it isn't that fun. If you want jeeps or tanks in Soldat it isn't really what you want. You must realise that when you're riding a jeep in a 2D game you're moving in 1D really. You just press forward and backwards. That is not fun. Planes are fun or soldier with jetpacks....

That depends, really. That's why I was wondering what the terrain on maps will be like in this game. Is it still polygons or mostly flat terrain, and will there be as many floating boulders as there were in Soldat?

Or you could just go Metal Slug-style ;-D

So, this sounds interesting! What do you predict to be the minimal graphic requirements for the game?

 Quote:Originally posted by nfsjunkie91So, this sounds interesting! What do you predict to be the minimal graphic requirements for the game?


Yeah. I would like the minimum system requirements. Since you are using that engine, I want to know if I at least can run it.

Odds are he's not going to be using high end graphics for a game like this. Think maybe like some of the old flight simulator games.

 Quote:Originally posted by KoonOdds are he's not going to be using high end graphics for a game like this. Think maybe like some of the old flight simulator games.


Woohoo! Now I can have hopes of beta testing this game. <_<

NICE!!!!!! i wub dogfight airplane mass death games MM FTW!

Peemonkey and PsY,

Those are really good =O
I once tried to do a 3d whale using a free 3d-modeling program and it didnt work out lmfao.
I stopped continuing it but those are pretty impressive.


Michal, will you be doing the graphics yourself? Are the planes going to be 3d, with various views? (first person, third, ect.,)
Or are you just making an up and down shooter? xD

 Quote:Originally posted by DrivenUnderMichal, will you be doing the graphics yourself? Are the planes going to be 3d, with various views? (first person, third, ect.,)
Or are you just making an up and down shooter? xD

2d sidescrolling movement, i'm guessing there will only be one camera angle.

it would be interesting to see a short video of the game so far, even though the graphics probably involve block planes and jeeps. about that jeep, i'm curious about how that worked out. does it have some semi-interesting physics, meaning that it can do little jumps and stuff (as in warthogs of halo), or does it just hug the ground?

edit: nice knife peemonkey, although i hope you're not planning on using that many polies for the game models :P

will the game be something like this?

http://www.genimo.com/game?id=sop

that was the impression I was getting Psycho, only a lot more modern.

Of course not hamster, that's just to show you how high-poly Milkshape can get :)

that game looks cool....but.. [CENSORED] FIREFOX!

if u dont have firefox just view the gameplay video folks

 Quote:that was the impression I was getting Psycho, only a lot more modern.
oh? MM says it will be around the WorldWar 1 time, and so is this game :P

Oops, I guess I read it wrong. It does say after WWI.

Vehicles...boring?!?! NEVOR!! WHAT if they could FLY!!??
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xD heh heh heh just kidding its probably useless if you have planes!
I'd like to help ... but all I can really do is simple flash animations xD.

wow.. that looks great:D

nice job

Got bored and opened up C4D for some logo action

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All of these are wallpaper sized, but resized for the forum

Looks great... so.. its going to be free? And supports crappy computers? ^^

 Quote:Originally posted by vice
I'd like to help ... but all I can really do is simple flash animations xD.


haha I bet you could help Michal if he creates a manual, your flash animations could help people understand specific controls or somthing? :P

vice: heh, that's cool. Flames coming out of the tyres, the same nonsense as flames from feet ;).

 Quote:Originally posted by m00` Quote:Originally posted by vice
I'd like to help ... but all I can really do is simple flash animations xD.


haha I bet you could help Michal if he creates a manual, your flash animations could help people understand specific controls or somthing? :P


Yep, I'll need all kinds of help in the future.

 Quote:
will the game be something like this?

http://www.genimo.com/game?id=sop


Yeah, exactly. But the maps will be more fun, more Soldatish, so there is some variety in the flying.

Oh, btw.. i can test the Beta phase of Crimson with my 1377 computer ^__^

P.S - Those are som kickass logos Mancer :o

I say put up a beta testers lottery so everyone has a fair chanse :P

 Quote:Originally posted by PsychoI say put up a beta testers lottery so everyone has a fair chanse :P

Shhh... be quiet!! My chances of winning would be like.. 1 to million

HOT AIR BALLOONS ARE A MUST!

will there be a bigger aspect on single player or is multiplayer the futer for this game?

Yup! Balloons we want.. ( With MG:s if possible ^^ ) Oh! And of course there must be some little helicopterish thingies eh?
(Or... are wee asking too much from u, Michal? :D)

Well let's just let him get the basic concept downa nd other things first before we barrage him with suggestions, lol. I'll gladly beta test, I love flying simulation games. My fav thing to do in BF2 is fly aircrafts :D

Michal, just give me a shemail if you need my modelling :)

will there be a crimsonforum.com or something in the future? that would be neat :D

I think that that's pretty obvious.

I would also like to beta test please.

can you guys stop asking to beta test, its quite obvious you just want a sneak peak, I doubt there will be private beta testing for this, I mean what the hell is the point of that? just release it as a public beta Michal ;)

Does it honestly matter at this stage? Michal's probably just started it.

Or give it to all the usual soldat beta testers.

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:D

 Quote:Originally posted by StalkyOr give it to all the usual soldat beta testers.

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:D

YESYESYES

...

Indeed. :D

OMG I CANT WAIT ZOMG LOL ROFLAAMOTEHDAS!
Not really. Sounds interesting thou'

 Quote:Originally posted by m00`can you guys stop asking to beta test, its quite obvious you just want a sneak peak, I doubt there will be private beta testing for this, I mean what the hell is the point of that? just release it as a public beta Michal ;)


Yes yes! Makit testable for all :).. btw.. we should whine about these beta thingies when Michal need testers ;)

I'd just like support for widescreen monitors (ala HL2 and associated games).

I just wanna know one thing...WILL THERE BE Zeppelins?!?
xD I can imagine that the sheer scale of it would be difficult to deal with cause judging from the size of a normal "soldat" the Zeppelin could fill up the screen. xD

That kinda leads me to another question; whats the scale going to be like? Is the soldier/player the same size as a normal "soldat"?
...cause if it is...IT WOULD BE AWESOME! *droolz at huge maps*

i remember someone saying it will be totally modable.. so totaly means that there is a very very high chance that you can add zeppilins.. :P

you can moddel a zeppelin and overwrite another Modell or you can "build" your own plane.
Or you can open the textures.

That or you could just make something up as you go alone with it. Either way you get something good out of it. lol

sounds cool :)
i would help if i could, but i'm not tht good :/

So, when the game is ready, how are you going to choose beta testers?

 Quote:Originally posted by Michal Marcinkowski

 Quote:
will the game be something like this?

http://www.genimo.com/game?id=sop


Yeah, exactly. But the maps will be more fun, more Soldatish, so there is some variety in the flying.


Aww, I had hoped it would be like an online (and much better) version of this.

Good luck, I can beta test and maybe do some art.

People, shut the hell up with the beta testing. It's not anywhere near any bit of done, leave him alone about it >:(

ok, just joined mailing list. I will love this game (as I always liked flying more than being a "soldat") I want to help but my skills are nonexsistant. If you need anything, ANYTHING, pm me or e-mail me please. I love history and I know almost every kind of plane that was in WWI. (could even come up with some "X-planes" if you want)

and in another ten years, we'll have soldat combined with the airplanes, and the internet will be better so we can have like 50 players on any regular server.

WOhooooo!!! you got inspiration from Porco Rosso..... Good man, Ghibli OWNS!! ;D

I hope there will be several types of planes that has diffrent strengh's & weaknesses... and several types of weapons to arm/load your plane with (with a weight limit of course...)... and a possibillity to customise the colour of it... :D

Have to calm down now, i dont have to get overexcited! >.<

hmmhm.. i wonder how long will the project take.. year? two? oh well.. time wont matter.. only how good will it come.. and im sure that THIS IS GOING TO BE GOOD!

Just wait until mods come out, STAR WARS lololol.

and thats when i kill myself.

 Quote:Originally posted by - Tek -Just wait until mods come out, STAR WARS lololol.


I have the feeling this game is going to be great for getting into modding bigger games than soldat. :) I can't wait to learn how to model 3d objects.

Then don't wait! Download Milkshape3D today!

I'll be an artist if you want.
i cant really do 3d
but 2d whether it be pixel art, or promotional art I can do no prob
if you want, ask me to draw something related to this project and ill show you what i got :)

heres an example of a little sketch I did
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and my avatar is an example of my pixel work

I went and saw porco rosso (red pig) and i loved it! ROCK ON SEAPLANES!

Stalky, do you have CS:S?

peemonkey, nope, I don't have HL2.

*Bump*


Direct import of common mesh file formats: Maya (.obj), 3DStudio (.3ds), COLLADA (.dae), DeleD (.dmf), Milkshape (.ms3d), Quake 3 levels (.bsp), Quake2 models (.md2), Microsoft DirectX (.X)... [more]
Direct import of Textures: Windows Bitmap (.bmp), Portable Network Graphics (.png), Adobe Photoshop (.psd), JPEG File Interchange Format (.jpg), Truevision Targa (.tga), ZSoft Painbrush (.pcx)... [more]


Oh [CENSORED], this is awsome.

 Quote:Adobe Photoshop (.psd)
YES!

Hey, where did that italised stuff come from?

In answer to Officer Bulbock:

I don't know


Some comments:

Sounds like a great game, I don't think land vehicles would be a very good thing to focus on because the terrain of Soldat maps usually have bumps, cliffs and walls, and in a 2D game, you'd be getting stuck all the time. For this reason, I'm happy with the direction you're heading with this.

Despite all that I've said, I still think you should impliment them in the game, even if there's only a few. This is because it would give a lot more customisation options for people who like the idea, who would make maps purely for driving around (and of course killing each other) on.
If you want any help on mapping, I'm here, but it seems you have enough support anyway.

Good luck on the project.

If u do soldat with 3D graphics then you destroy soldat. :Q I dont know about others but i like soldat because its 2D game.

 Quote:Originally posted by PattonIf u do soldat with 3D graphics then you destroy soldat. :Q I dont know about others but i like soldat because its 2D game.


This isn't soldat, this is a new game.

Kk, good

And you don't understand the concept behind the 3D. Read the whole thread please.

I would like to see anti-air guns for sure.

Man, make this game as fun as Soldat with the options you are talking about and you've won me over.

@vash763: he knows, all right. He said "3D graphics." I think he means that the old-skool atmosphere would be ruined.

Well just because he specifies graphics doesn't mean that he doesn't think the entire game will be 3D. But anyways, it's not soldat and we'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

And man, those options for imports are sweet.

heh...wierd. I made something like this ages ago with GM think i still have it on my HD somewhere, meh it sucked a lot mroe than this sounds! GL MM =)

GM is in no class with anything else dimitri, and it doesn't sound possible, because this is with models and whatnot, and not sprites :P

i said i made something like this, + if you have the time to do it, you can convert .3ds models into GM ^.^

But gml can't handle it well enough to do anything more than a demo with it :P

*sigh* you dont understand do you....nvm

I think it'd be possible in GM (I personaly love how Gm works)
But the Ragdoll type animation used in soldat might be hard to do
with GM without a good knowledge in Both math and programming.

but really GM is a kickass program, unfortunately it's limited in areas (which will sometimes cause frustration and huge detours in programming which results in slower code :/)
also even with a good understanding of how GML (game maker language) works (alot like c++)
i dont think it will really help you out if you want to try a new language

Let's get back on track. Michal's making another game, and we all must support him, because I really want to make mods for it before it even exsists :P

NEW GAME?! OGMZ TEH ROXXORS


Anyways, this really does sound awesome MM, can't wait to play.

damn! sounds like a good game well good luck making it

p.s soldat rocks!!

hopefully michal will release soldat's source code ( like he talked about in one of his interviews ) soon before he releases crimson skies :)

Oh no...now we will have more soldat games....ORiginal only please MM don't do that to soldat....

 Quote:Originally posted by livingdalifeOh no...now we will have more soldat games....ORiginal only please MM don't do that to soldat....


livingdalife....why original...? heheheh

 Quote:Originally posted by livingdalifeOh no...now we will have more soldat games....ORiginal only please MM don't do that to soldat....

nah it would be cool,yeah there'd be some crap ones, but there'll be some real good ones too...probably.

I still need map makers. Anybody have experience with creating 3D maps? They can be created in any tool. PM me.

What do you mean by "any tool?" Can you give an example?

And can Painted sketches of maps contribute? :-P

Wow! I'm 100% available to help you create those maps Michal! But with any tool, what does it mean? x__X

Most engines have their own map maker, so that's usually what they're experience is involving, so you might have to make your own, or use actual models or something.

By any tool I mean of course any 3D tool:), like: 3D Studio, Maya, Milkshape, Wings, Blender. The final result is imported in DeleD, in that tool you will be able to add stuff like respawn points and sceneries. It's easy I can eaven do it but I need creative people that can create something unique.

Hm... I've heard (and tried to use some) of those kinds of progs. but I have no clue how they work. :-P What about just sketches of map layouts?

I'm just wondering about a few things here.
Would it be possible to land planes, choppers, zeppelins etc to repair them (or will there be some kind of weird floating healthpacks around the map)?
Will there be limitations like fuel and ammo?
Would it be possible to pick up and carry around anti-air turrets in a helicopter to drop them somewhere on the map, or having a huge carrier from which smaller planes come out?
And do airplanes crash into the ground if you ram them too fast, will they just get damaged?
And also, I'll try some 3D tools now, but I hope that you understand that even if you'd be an decent mapper (which I don't know if I am..) it's hard to map for a game without knowing what it looks like, or what the gameplay is like, so the first few maps that are released might be pretty bad..
That's a lot of questions, you might not even have completed some of the answers yet, I'm just hoping you could get to some of them.

Well Michal, I can do some nice maps in milky probably, and since it's mor or less 2-d, all sorts of backfaces beind removed would up the size of the maps.

I hope there will be class like in BF sries. Engineer can repair Medic can heal and etc..

could i post 257x257 hightfields, with 3d previews renered in terragen?

Hmm, now that I think about it...

WIll the modding system be enough that we could create our own vehicles and such?

Dug up from the depths of the thread:
 Quote:The game will be completely moddable. I don't know how much level of customisation I can get from gosteks because the main focus will be on planes. But I want it to be as customizable as possible.

...

It will be possible for any kind of machinery to work in this game.
Given that, I'd say it's likely that we'll see vehicle moddability to some kind of extent, although I'm not sure even MM could say just what that extent will be, this early on.




As for the hightfields thing, Rabidhamster, isn't this game going to use a 2-D sidescroller-style view using 3-D graphics, or am I just crazy?

Well since the engine imports all sorts of models and filetypes, the graphics and models will likely be modable.

I'd be happy to make some maps for this. I'd probably make one map so I can put all my effort in that. I'd have to learn how to use the programs first but I'm a pretty fast learner if there are tutorials for it.

I hade this editor!
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Vote 1! Pay-to-Play!

 Quote:Originally posted by EnEsCeVote 1! Pay-to-Play!
no I disagree

 Quote:Originally posted by N1nj@ Quote:Originally posted by EnEsCeVote 1! Pay-to-Play!
no I disagree


why disagree? its gonna rule once its out!!!!

 Quote:Originally posted by -VzX- Silverflame Quote:Originally posted by N1nj@ Quote:Originally posted by EnEsCeVote 1! Pay-to-Play!
no I disagree


why disagree? its gonna rule once its out!!!!



[CENSORED] you piece of [CENSORED]

You can never do anything but troll, can you?

I'm interested in ur project too MM. I have average coding and mapping experience in Unreal Engine http://www.unrealtechnology.com
And I have been in few mod team of Unreal Tournament 2004.

-Mikeman

wow!! cool michal i wish you the best in ur new project

 Quote:Originally posted by Belier13 Quote:Originally posted by -VzX- Silverflame Quote:Originally posted by N1nj@ Quote:Originally posted by EnEsCeVote 1! Pay-to-Play!
no I disagree


why disagree? its gonna rule once its out!!!!



[CENSORED] you piece of [CENSORED]

Yeah uh, I was kidding about Pay2Play...

This game looks awesome. At last the complaints for not having vehicles in Soldat will diminish.
I am a HUGE fan of Triplane Turmoil and always wanted someone to create something like that but with more depth.
I reckon this game should also be like Soldat in the registration sense. Pay to get more features like more decals on your plane and nice HUD's and such. But it's completely free to play.

I wish you all the luck with this new project of yours.

Edit: Oh, I found out that some people are making a Triplane Turmoil 2. Here are some shots of it : [URL]
Will your game be like that then? If thats the case I love it even more. Oh yeah, by the term 'making' Triplane Turmoil 2, I mean relaxing. They have been 'making' this game for 3 years now, no one could take that long.

 Quote:Originally posted by Eoi Oh, I found out that some people are making a Triplane Turmoil 2. Oh yeah, by the term 'making' Triplane Turmoil 2, I mean relaxing. They have been 'making' this game for 3 years now, no one could take that long.



Not even Michal ^_^

i bet he is.. i think he's on to much milk.

 Quote:Originally posted by EoiOh yeah, by the term 'making' Triplane Turmoil 2, I mean relaxing. They have been 'making' this game for 3 years now, no one could take that long.
Pfft, that's nothing. Duke Nukem Forever's been in production since 1997.

have any of you guys played Funky Truck from Teagames.com? It's a 2d sidescrolling driving game that really takes advantage of physics, and the levels are full of jumps and hills and things. The controls are pretty interesting, you can tilt your vehicle forward and back to do tricks and do wheelies and things. Play the game and then imagine what it would be like with a machine gunner in the back! That would work great in the Soldat universe methinks...

 Quote:Originally posted by Endymionhave any of you guys played Funky Truck from Teagames.com? It's a 2d sidescrolling driving game that really takes advantage of physics, and the levels are full of jumps and hills and things. The controls are pretty interesting, you can tilt your vehicle forward and back to do tricks and do wheelies and things. Play the game and then imagine what it would be like with a machine gunner in the back! That would work great in the Soldat universe methinks...

in other words
vehichules!!1 :P
wont happen

frankly, there are enough bugs in soldat to sort out first...

but, please, atleast use opengl and actually make the game portable.....

I'm sure this has already been suggested, but should the wreckage of shot down planes cause damage? That would add a bit to the gameplay, just imagine: You shoot down an enemy plane, and it falls on your opponents, exploding and killing all of them. Also, maybe destructable enviroments?

The damaging wrecks sounds gooooooooooood.... but environments... nah....

can you tell us some gamemodes youre going to be using?

 Quote:Originally posted by SadistAtHeartI'm sure this has already been suggested, but should the wreckage of shot down planes cause damage? That would add a bit to the gameplay, just imagine: You shoot down an enemy plane, and it falls on your opponents, exploding and killing all of them. Also, maybe destructable enviroments?


or as happens to me far too much when flying heli in battlefield, you shoot down an incoming jet only to have its wreakage crash into you XD

 Quote:Originally posted by UltraMagnus Quote:Originally posted by SadistAtHeartI'm sure this has already been suggested, but should the wreckage of shot down planes cause damage? That would add a bit to the gameplay, just imagine: You shoot down an enemy plane, and it falls on your opponents, exploding and killing all of them. Also, maybe destructable enviroments?


or as happens to me far too much when flying heli in battlefield, you shoot down an incoming jet only to have its wreakage crash into you XD


haha, true.
But it would be cool nonetheless.

 Quote:Originally posted by UltraMagnus
but, please, atleast use opengl and actually make the game portable.....


oh god yes please

I like the system in Triplane Turmoil. Most of the time the plane explodes leaving a huge amount of debris (which can/cannot hurt depending on options). Otherwise the plane will tumble don't into the sea and explode there (people can/cannot crash into it dpending on options). So basically there should be different ways of dying and the host should be able to pick if collisions are on or not (I prefer not). This is similar to Friendly Fire in Soldat.

I was planning to do destructible terrain but I didn't find a use for it. It's not really that big of an idea. There are limited gameplay possibilites for it and it's a lot of work to get done.
Hurting plane debris? Well this will be one of the games trademarks.

no comment on if it will use open gl or direct crap? damn.... that means..... damn....

 Quote:Originally posted by Michal MarcinkowskiHurting plane debris? Well this will be one of the games trademarks.
über-w00t! That was (in a somewhat unconnected way) my Soldat suggestion for killing players while they're using their jet boots!

Awesome.

Hooray, another dream come true!

 Quote:Originally posted by UltraMagnusno comment on if it will use open gl or direct crap? damn.... that means..... damn....


:C

 Quote:Originally posted by Psycho Quote:Originally posted by Endymionhave any of you guys played Funky Truck from Teagames.com? It's a 2d sidescrolling driving game that really takes advantage of physics, and the levels are full of jumps and hills and things. The controls are pretty interesting, you can tilt your vehicle forward and back to do tricks and do wheelies and things. Play the game and then imagine what it would be like with a machine gunner in the back! That would work great in the Soldat universe methinks...

in other words
vehichules!!1 :P
wont happen

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't airplanes vehicles?

 Quote:Originally posted by Michal MarcinkowskiI was planning to do destructible terrain but I didn't find a use for it. It's not really that big of an idea. There are limited gameplay possibilites for it and it's a lot of work to get done.


What about a mode than when there's no more earth in the level, the game end?

Be-the-First-to-Deform-the-Landmatch!

Heheh, that'd be kinda fun, but I think terrain deformation wouldn't be worth the programming if it was only going to be used for one game mode.

Perhaps, if it was to be implemented (server op.), destroyed terrain would leave an outline so you can tell where ground is originally supposed to be?of course there can be indestructible concrete or whatnot?and anyone caught in it while it regenerates?on occasion, maybe every half-minute?is destroyed (leaving fossils inside the ground that gradually fade away)? xD Hahaha, I'd totally support that.

I would prefer to use unreal techonology instead of DeleD.
Then u could buy licence and sell it and earn money xD
And I know better UnrealEd than DeleD :P

But MM decides :P

I know UnrealED quite well also...

 Quote:Originally posted by Michal MarcinkowskiI was planning to do destructible terrain but I didn't find a use for it. It's not really that big of an idea. There are limited gameplay possibilites for it and it's a lot of work to get done.
Hurting plane debris? Well this will be one of the games trademarks.


Awesome! This game has me officially excited.

Oh, and by "destructable enviroments," i didn't mean terrain deformation, i meant static objects that can be destroyed (like boxes, little buildings etc.)

 Quote:Oh, and by "destructable enviroments," i didn't mean terrain deformation, i meant static objects that can be destroyed (like boxes, little buildings etc.)

Hmmm... but that could get annoying when you take cover behind a box and then BOOM! You don't really want to give the people in the planes any more of an advantage do you? I guess it depends if you want the majority of people in planes or not. If you have destructive environments then everyone will pick the plane option.

I can't remember whether we were going to give the guys on foot jets.

 Quote:Originally posted by KamikazeDuck Quote:Oh, and by "destructable enviroments," i didn't mean terrain deformation, i meant static objects that can be destroyed (like boxes, little buildings etc.)

Hmmm... but that could get annoying when you take cover behind a box and then BOOM! You don't really want to give the people in the planes any more of an advantage do you? I guess it depends if you want the majority of people in planes or not. If you have destructive environments then everyone will pick the plane option.

I can't remember whether we were going to give the guys on foot jets.

Maybe you could put the objects in the background, yet still making them destructable, thus solving the cover problem (seeing as you couldn't hide behind it in the first place.)

AH. I'm excited to get my shaking hands on this game.

I think this would be an great idea it would turn soldat into more of a call of duty game but you can fly in it!! i'd be glad to help you test it and do anything else you need me to do.

ThE_eNd

Eh, I think it will be pretty damn hard to take cover behind a box... when you're in an airplane...

I break from the trend! I dont wanna beta test... i hate beta's too glitchy XD. I would help, But not only do i suck at coding, and mapping... and everything, but my only assets would be a steady hand... and a calm head... Not to say that thats not needed... but it would be best if you found someone with that... AND some coding/mapping/drawing skills.

 Quote:Eh, I think it will be pretty damn hard to take cover behind a box... when you're in an airplane...
He said there will be normal soldiers, not only planes. You get in a plane if you want to fly one.

S'more questions.

1.How would (if implemented) vehicles turn around?
2.If we make our own mods, would it be possible to have a cache that mod files from other people's server would be downloaded to?
3.WATER?!
4.Will people who already registered a copy of Soldat get a discount/free registration key for Crimson Glory?

I believe turning around willl be like this (when in a plane)
You can fly up and down like normal, and there's a button to spin your plane over.
You do half a loop-de-loop, then spin your plane

Hey Michal, ever played Physical War?
It was a test game for this 2-d engine where buildings could have chunks blown out of them and stuff, it also had vehicles. Only had two test levels though, unfortunately.

When playing triplane I used to make alot of loops while dropping bomps at the same time, youll end up hurling the suckers far away, and hit other planes.. i loved to do that!! :D

You should make stuff like that also possible... ;D

Nah, instead of get lucky use skill :P
Fly towards the plane at its blind spot shooting at it. If it doesn't blow up turn yourself upside down and let the bomb loose.
Red plane RULES!

Oh yeah Michal, make it easy to land please. I only managed it a few times in multiplayer in the campaign it was slightly easier.

 Quote:Originally posted by EoiI believe turning around willl be like this (when in a plane)
You can fly up and down like normal, and there's a button to spin your plane over.
You do half a loop-de-loop, then spin your plane


I'm talking about things like Jeeps or APCS, how would they turn around?

@ Michael: Mapping programs are like a second language to me, i downloaded DeleD and im trying my best to learn it. Also, take a look around the good maps in the "Quality Maps" section, you'll find some veteran mappers there that would probably be willing to help. Other mappers: I would DL and try out DeleD, especially if your good with this kinda stuff.

A land vehicle would turn like a Soldat does. Except since it's 3D it will look more fluid. An you won't be able to spin about too quickly or else a tank would be invincible.

 Quote:Originally posted by nfsjunkie914.Will people who already registered a copy of Soldat get a discount/free registration key for Crimson Glory?

Interesting question. I'd like to know this.

 Quote:Originally posted by Stalky Quote:Originally posted by nfsjunkie914.Will people who already registered a copy of Soldat get a discount/free registration key for Crimson Glory?

Interesting question. I'd like to know this.


I'd like to know this too.

 Quote:Originally posted by David S7 Quote:Originally posted by Stalky Quote:Originally posted by nfsjunkie914.Will people who already registered a copy of Soldat get a discount/free registration key for Crimson Glory?

Interesting question. I'd like to know this.


I'd like to know this too.


He would probebly NOT give out 5000 10000 discounts..

 Quote:Originally posted by Stalky Quote:Originally posted by nfsjunkie914.Will people who already registered a copy of Soldat get a discount/free registration key for Crimson Glory?

Interesting question. I'd like to know this.


...How poor are you? It's only $9 dollars!

Or sell it in stores :D . I haven't buyed much stuff online, but nvm, I'll try to buy it. I wanna support Michal too!

nah, it's a different project completely. There's no real reason why registration would be shared and i'm sure MMs also looking for a little bit of income off this.

Oh, I see.

 Quote:Originally posted by SadistAtHeart...How poor are you? It's only $9 dollars!

Don't call me poor. I only said I was interested to know. If its a good game I'll pay a full registration price for it.

EDIT: Removed flame. Gah.

I bought ten of my friends soldat, just so they could play the full version.

 Quote:Hey Michal, ever played Physical War?
I'm downloading it now :).


 Quote:Originally posted by nfsjunkie91S'more questions.

1.How would (if implemented) vehicles turn around?
2.If we make our own mods, would it be possible to have a cache that mod files from other people's server would be downloaded to?
3.WATER?!
4.Will people who already registered a copy of Soldat get a discount/free registration key for Crimson Glory?


1. Well planes can just flip. Probably the same can be done for cars but it is unnatural.

2. I want to do this.

3. Did I mention these are hydroplanes?

4. People that registered Soldat should definitly get some benefit when buying Crimson Glory.

Sweet.

well im 16, but i can pack alot of stuff. ill be available in any needs for you MM.

youve never let us down.

 Quote:Originally posted by Michal Marcinkowski...  Quote:Originally posted by nfsjunkie91... 3.WATER?!...
... 3. Did I mention these are hydroplanes?...
HOLY COW

 Quote:Originally posted by Stalky Quote:Originally posted by SadistAtHeart...How poor are you? It's only $9 dollars!

Don't call me poor. I only said I was interested to know. If its a good game I'll pay a full registration price for it.

EDIT: Removed flame. Gah.


Heh, i was only joking Stalky, calm it down.

Hydroplanes? Sweet.

How many types of planes are you thinking, and will there be variable equipment for each one? Or will the weapon scheme depend soley on the type of plane you're in?

 Quote:Originally posted by Keron Cyst Quote:Originally posted by Michal Marcinkowski...  Quote:Originally posted by nfsjunkie91... 3.WATER?!...
... 3. Did I mention these are hydroplanes?...
HOLY COW


lol'd :)

Fully implemented water is gonna be sweeeeet...

I wonder if people will be quitting Soldat for playing Crimson Glory. I hope not.
Guys, when it's released, play both games, don't quit Soldat ;) .

I definetely won't quit Soldat. I never been completely playing it. But I've been going on and off for years now and I don't plan to stop anytime soon. Soldat is probably my favorite game. I choose it over Halo 2, Counter Strike: Source etc. Simply because of its simplicity.

Alot of people like soldat for its simplicity, and how you can pick it up so easily. Most games require lots and lots of practice to master them, now im not saying soldat is easy to master, but its easyier then most games like the ones you listed.

and its never repetetive because everyone and anyone can make maps and mods for it. I thought I'd never say this but Halo 2 is boring now. Soldat has the longest life I've ever seen.

wow, this is nice to hear that MM is working on something new...
...so how is it going ?

Well once Crimson Glory is going to be released, im probably going to open up a server for that (If thats how that still works). Seeing its 2-D, Im expecting it to be alot like soldat. I will wait ^_^

Its not 2D.
It plays like a side-view 2D game, but it is 3D.

Psuedo 3d. It's called psuedo 3d.
I can't wait to hear what gamemodes there'll be!

another tester and possible mapper at your service

i asked first >:¤

 Quote:Originally posted by Officer_BulbockPsuedo 3d. It's called psuedo 3d.

Wrong again! This is a 2.5d game. 3d graphics, with two dimensions of maneuverability.

he's the expert

 Quote:Originally posted by rabidhamster Quote:Originally posted by Officer_BulbockPsuedo 3d. It's called psuedo 3d.

Wrong again! This is a 2.5d game. 3d graphics, with two dimensions of maneuverability.


Well, I was under the impression that was what pseudo 3d was, but hell, I'm not arguing.