well i searched the suggestions list for "selfkill", "self kill" and "self-kill" and didnt find anything, so i think this hasn't been suggested before (yes i also thumbed through the forums).

i think selfkilling should be punished with -1 point at least in deathmatch.
there are many people who use granades when they are right next to an other player. often they can kill the other one but also die because they were too close to the explosion themselfes.
this doesnt require any skill, so i think it should be punished.
same for m79 players and selfkilling by falling down like on Airpirates or by touching the frame on blox.
all in all, whenever you kill yourself subtract 1 point from the score.

in fact, when i started playing soldat, i was surprized that it hasn't already been implemented.

[lol]yeah! selfkilling rox! No kill, just selfkill.
The top-clan always selfkilling themself coz its pro-tactic in TNL
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You have my support

Yes it should. Every online shooter I have played selfkill is a reduce of points, why not in Soldat ?

Ghm, i like selfkilling.
And i dont like -1 ;__;

I agree on this, make it an option though.

If I remember correctly, Michal M. already answered this somewhere before.
Unless I'm mistaking, he said he liked it this way so no need to change it.
Someone please confirm this statement. (?)

^ yes

Yeah, it's different from other games which subtract points, and you can also have self-sacrificng players go in to terrorist bomb the [CENSORED] out of a flagger and have a teammate recover the flag.

Alot of nice ways to selfkill as a tactic in a match. I wouldn't support subtracting scores at all.

if you look in the soldat changelog, selfkilling point subtraction was added, but then taken out in a later version.

I STRONGLY agree. Part of the game is loosing health when you are killed. With self killing not being punishable in any way someone can die when it is convienent for them. If you got a whole team of self killers the other team could be at a serious dis-advantage because of it. (I say -1 point +the extra respawn time is fair.)

Haha, you remember how your death count goes up 1?

What if you are accidentally killed by your own grenade out of lag or something like that? I do not support.

Keron Cyst: yes thats the point, if people are too stupid to handle granades then it should be punished. if you lag then you annoy people by lagging anyway.

It used to be like this in 1.0.5, It was taken out becuase people got annoyed when they accidentaly killed themselves. This is the second time i've heard it suggested since then.

Self killing is rediculous on a 1v1 dm. All you do is assign /kill to a taunt and press it whenever you're about to die. Use it after killing your enemy too, and you'll always have full health. Your ratio will be 30-98, but you would still win.

That is cheats :O ^^

 Quote:Originally posted by ZamorakThat is cheats :O ^^


Which is precisly why you should get -1 for self killing.

Well, like they said, some selfkills happen by mere accident, and shouldn't deserve to have a point removed from their total score. Still, I do like the sound of this idea, although I do agree it should be an option.

Itll be tricky if its an survival server.. XD lol!

There's no way to defend the current system. It's often been making 1v1:s and TDM:s dumb.
More serious leagues like ESL even have rules which already punishes it, and gives the other team a free kill. Which even more should tell us that it should be fixed within the game.

It wouldn't effect any other game mode as far as i can see, doesn't matter in a DM since it would happen to everyone, or people would stop running carelessly through their nade spam.
CTF would be totally uneffected, as would the other game modes.

I have to agree with Leo You have my support BTW

 Quote:well i searched the suggestions list for "selfkill", "self kill" and "self-kill" and didnt find anything, so i think this hasn't been suggested before (yes i also thumbed through the forums).

i think selfkilling should be punished with -1 point at least in deathmatch.
there are many people who use granades when they are right next to an other player. often they can kill the other one but also die because they were too close to the explosion themselfes.
this doesnt require any skill, so i think it should be punished.
same for m79 players and selfkilling by falling down like on Airpirates or by touching the frame on blox.
all in all, whenever you kill yourself subtract 1 point from the score.

in fact, when i started playing soldat, i was surprized that it hasn't already been implemented.

Man, thats why soldat is different from any other game, so live with it....although that little /kill b4 u die is sneaky and stupid...but wat about if u get stuck in a poly bug or summit? u just sit there spamming up the noise or waiting for sum sneaky [CENSORED] to nade/m79 you?...I say no to this....

 Quote:Originally posted by livingdalife Quote:well i searched the suggestions list for "selfkill", "self kill" and "self-kill" and didnt find anything, so i think this hasn't been suggested before (yes i also thumbed through the forums).

i think selfkilling should be punished with -1 point at least in deathmatch.
there are many people who use granades when they are right next to an other player. often they can kill the other one but also die because they were too close to the explosion themselfes.
this doesnt require any skill, so i think it should be punished.
same for m79 players and selfkilling by falling down like on Airpirates or by touching the frame on blox.
all in all, whenever you kill yourself subtract 1 point from the score.

in fact, when i started playing soldat, i was surprized that it hasn't already been implemented.

Man, thats why soldat is different from any other game, so live with it....although that little /kill b4 u die is sneaky and stupid...but wat about if u get stuck in a poly bug or summit? u just sit there spamming up the noise or waiting for sum sneaky [CENSORED] to nade/m79 you?...I say no to this....



no i think you should live with getting -1 for getting lost in a polygon you clumsy arse. see of it as of falling into the lava in quake.

it would be cool as a server option because of servers like EnEsence(i know it is wrong) fun corp

everyone dies like 50 times exept for like 4 people on the server.

even if it was an accident you still deserve -1 because you let the accident happen.

You have my support with this since that would teach some newbies a lesson xD

Of course it could accidentally happen. Suicides happen all the time accidentally in other games, and everyone accepts the consequences. It's like saying, if I fire a LAW on accident and kill someone by chance, then I shouldn't get the kill because I didn't mean to. If you accidentally walk on your own nade then take that -1 without complaining. It's your fault. If you get stuck in a poly, tought luck. What's more lame? Losing 1 point every 100 games for getting stuck in a poly or playing against someone who never lets you kill him becuase he keeps using /kill lamely?

It's just -1 point. It's not going to make you instantly lose. It's worth it to prevent lame people from exploiting suicides.

You should not get -1 for selfkilling, but if you use any of the /kill commands it should -1 your score, thats fair enough.

If selfkills =-1, then so should deaths.

 Quote:Originally posted by - Tek -If selfkills =-1, then so should deaths.

what in the world?

matches would take about twice as long then, this would be an interesting server option though.

 Quote:Originally posted by TopGunSF Quote:Originally posted by ZamorakThat is cheats :O ^^


Which is precisly why you should get -1 for self killing.


No, you just kill them first.

Also, for every 1 person that does that, there are alot who dont, so stop crying about it.

Soldat is too crazy a game to implement -1 for self kill, why do idiot's always refer to what 3d realisticshooters have for a 2d arcade shooter?

 Quote:Originally posted by rabidhamsterif you look in the soldat changelog, selfkilling point subtraction was added, but then taken out in a later version.


Says it all. Locked.

I should moderate properly. :/