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turn barret into sniper rifle?
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mortal_soldier
April 15, 2006, 7:12 pm
I think it would be better to replace barret with a sniper rifle (as barret is a anti-material gun). It would still be one shot kill, but more realistic (and scope would remain)....and it would be also cool to be able to turn sniper line on/off during game.

ps: i used search and found no topics about this subject.(if i missed one plz dont whine).

tell your opinion.

--Jake--
April 16, 2006, 1:36 pm
The barret is a sniper rifle basically. Just becuase it doesn't have its name as 'Sniper Rifle' it doesn't mean it isn't one. Anyway about the sniperline... I don't think it would make much difference.

Drink Bloody Water
April 16, 2006, 2:34 pm
Sniper Rifle
an extremely powerful rifle developed for the military; capable of destroying light armored vehicles and aircraft more than a mile away

Barret M82A1
This sniper weapon has incredible power. It was designed to pierce tank armor.

I have to agree with Jake and what he said, but the Sniper Rifle is a little bit weaker.






Eagles_Arrows
April 16, 2006, 2:46 pm
rofl at this topic.

I agree with Jake and DBW - I don't want Barrett to be replaced with another sniper rifle. Besides, you can make your own weapons mods.

Deleted User
April 16, 2006, 2:48 pm
just find a mod for the barret geez.

UltraMagnus
April 16, 2006, 7:03 pm
the barret is an anti tank rifle... not a sniper rifle per ce

which does make me wonder why it doesnt kill somone waring an vest in one shot!

mortal_soldier
April 16, 2006, 7:11 pm
im just saying it should be replaced with anti-personnel sniper gun, like M40A1 for example.

info:
The M40A1 sniper rifle is based on the Remington model 700. It is a heavy barrel, bolt action, magazine fed 7.62mm rifle that is optimized for accuracy with Match Grade ammunition. The rifle is equipped with a special 10 power Unertl sniper scope. With scope, the rifle weighs approximately 14.5 pounds. It is equipped with a built-in five round magazine. This weapon is hand-made by specially trained and qualified armorers at Quantico, Virginia. The unique characteristics of the M40A1 Sniper Rifle are: commercial competition-grade heavy barrel, McMillan fiberglass stock and butt pad, modified Winchester Model 70 floorplate and trigger guard, and modified and lightened trigger. In addition, each stock is epoxy bedded for accuracy and all weapons must shoot less than one minute of angle (MOA). The M40A1 was put into service in the 1970s to meet the need of a long range sniper rifle. Each rifle is hand built by specially trained and qualified personnel at the Marine Corps Marksmanship Training Unit (MTU) at Quantico, Virginia.

(info is taken from http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/m40.htm)

please think about it before posting your negative comments.

vash763
April 16, 2006, 7:36 pm
I think it should be switched with a different sniper, yes.

I suggested this in a few other topics a couple weeks ago.

Deleted User
April 16, 2006, 8:46 pm
The barret isn't a sniper rifle?

What's the difference, anyways? It's just a different picture and name, make a mod if you want it.

zyxstand
April 16, 2006, 8:58 pm
we need ideas in that forum that help make soldat a better place. not useless ideas like (for example) changing the order of the weapons in the weapon menu...

even though this was rly a bad example i just think this idea is rather useless... i mean - common; renaming a weapons isn't gonna chagne anything

if you're really desparate why don't you just go in your soldat folder and change the name yourself from barret to sniper rifle...

The Geologist
April 16, 2006, 9:03 pm
Relacing the barret is perfectly within the means of current weapons modding. You can make the gun weaker and tweak it however you like. There is no need to change the actual game for this.

rabidhamster
April 16, 2006, 9:34 pm
The only good idea here is not having the scope return after firing. I always hate not being able to see my perfect head shot from 60m.

Swarmer
April 16, 2006, 10:05 pm
Well, technically the barrett isn't a sniper rifle. It's not made for shooting people either. It's for taking out important materials, like expensive electronics, radar stations, stationary missles, stationary aircraft, and small vehicles.
Yeah, it WOULD be better if it was replaced, since the barrett should be semi auto anyways, but for the sake of the game, there really doesn't need to be a change. It's fine how it is.

BooBoo McBad
April 17, 2006, 1:54 am
Well, the good thing about an anti material gun is no matter how far away the person you hit is(unless feet) they die! =)

Swarmer
April 17, 2006, 3:38 am
Well, even if you hit thier feet, they are probably going to die. It's hard surviving getting your leg ripped off unless you get immediate medical attention. Even if you did, there's a good chance that you'd die from blood loss and shock.

Deleted User
April 17, 2006, 4:57 am
You can already turn the sniper line on/off in-game. Press alt+F2.

Also, i like the barret. There, problem solved.

Deleted User
April 17, 2006, 10:12 am
No no no we dont need sniper rifle i love the barret <3

UltraMagnus
April 17, 2006, 10:40 am
if we are discussing what it should be replaced with, how about the m16.

and yes, i can understand not making the weapons exactly the same as they are in real life in game, but making a semi automatic gun bolt action! and actually, bolt action guns dont even take as long as the barret takes to reload to reload

Zegovia
April 17, 2006, 1:42 pm
Sniper line are for pansys!! real men uses standard crossair!! ;D

a-4-year-old
April 17, 2006, 2:02 pm
 Quote:Originally posted by ZegoviaSniper line are for pansys!! real men uses standard crossair!! ;D
next comic :O

i think this calls for a mod, no need for MM to change it.

MAGNUM WITH A SCOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Deleted User
April 17, 2006, 6:15 pm
No.

Deleted User
April 17, 2006, 8:49 pm
Sheesh, what the [CENSORED]. Isn't the Barret a sniper rifle already?

Deleted User
April 18, 2006, 1:28 am
Who cares? Especially if the function stays the same.

No one goes into combat with chainsaws on their backs either.

Mini Man
April 18, 2006, 11:28 am
In my opinion barrets have been fixed in Soldat 1.3.1, before they where horrible and now they are much better, more balanced.

The only way i can see the barret turned into more of a sniper rifle would be to make it like the law..and only being able to fire it in crouch/prone. Therefore its much harder to go charging in blasting people's heads off here and there. Although this is going to get totally flamed, so i suggest that this never happens. (Adding the fact that you have to hold down the left mouse button has greatly improved the barret, but i think it's destroyed the law)

UltraMagnus
April 19, 2006, 9:14 am
i think it has destroyed the barret, the delay compleatly destroys its advantage, range

it should be like the law, having to crouch or prone, but no delay

livingdalife
April 19, 2006, 10:47 am
why not make an extra space in the weapons, and the pansys who can't shoot a barret for fear of ripping there puny little arms off, can use the smaller, more efficient sniper rifle...although, I think barret is more efficient...

Deleted User
April 19, 2006, 3:09 pm
Hell no ultra, it would be completely useless in CW, since you are now a stationary target, and they can shoot you and mess your aim up before you get to blow their head off.

The Geologist
April 19, 2006, 4:22 pm
 Quote:Originally posted by UltraMagnusi think it has destroyed the barret, the delay compleatly destroys its advantage, range

it should be like the law, having to crouch or prone, but no delay


But the law has a delay on it to, and the barret delay really doesn't destroy the barret unless you're...not good with the barret to begin with, or havn't practiced. It doesn't take much to get used to.

And how does a time delay effect range?

UltraMagnus
April 19, 2006, 4:40 pm
because by the time you have fired they are within seeing distance of you! thats how!

and why would you want to shoot on the move with a sniper rifle?! its compleatly stupid and unrealistic!

Deleted User
April 19, 2006, 6:11 pm
Because it kills people, and works?


Since when has soldat been realistic?

damnnation
April 19, 2006, 7:07 pm
barrett is fine, quit [CENSORED]ing, welcome to soldat.

The Geologist
April 19, 2006, 8:22 pm
 Quote:Originally posted by UltraMagnusbecause by the time you have fired they are within seeing distance of you! thats how!

and why would you want to shoot on the move with a sniper rifle?! its compleatly stupid and unrealistic!


So you can only kill what can't see you? Please..that's hardly a reason.

And I never said anything about wanting to shoot on the move. Just pointing out how your desire to make the barret like the law is odd, because the law also has a delay. Whining now is just silly.

Boer
April 21, 2006, 1:00 pm
About the barrets one-shot-one-kill ablity, can it be made that leg shots dont do this ,but merely cause the soldat the bleed to death? maby 3-6 sec, depends on damage dealt.

...If you think about it...

only headshots and upper-torso shots will generally cause death in an instant. If the wounded can then get medikit, they wont bleed to death (lose remaining health over time). Otherwise ,this would introduce a nice finishing off stratagy with your sidearm!!! Grenade that are walked over should do this also...

Deleted User
April 21, 2006, 4:09 pm
No, Boer.

Deleted User
April 23, 2006, 4:08 am
Correct me if im wrong, but i believe that in americas army, the barret has more range and kills in one shot anywhere on the body, but the m24 is more accurate, quiet, and only headshots kill in one shot.

Why not add another weapon like that?

--Jake--
April 23, 2006, 10:43 am
Keep the barret, no more new weapons.

The only thing that needs to be changed is the way the barret bullet veers off one way or the other when you are moving. Other than that the barret is meant for camping and not going into the frontline so it shouldn't matter about only crouch/prone to fire becuase you should be doing that from a safe spot anyway.