I think it would be better if new comers cant spawn during a round but until after 1 person is left.Same should go for team changers.

adding my voice to this thread

The survival mode is far more boring for people playing dead till the mass respawn (cuz of those team switchers/joiners..) hence my suppoort for the initial statement made on this thread 'I think it would be better if new comers cant spawn during a round but until after 1 person is left.Same should go for team changers.'the people team changing and joining can wait a minute or two till the last man/team standing wins so as not to force the dead 'uns to wait FOREVER CUZ OF SOME JERK is team switching a second after he gets fragged... forcing a newcomer or 2 to wait a minute or two is less of a complaint than a chorus of dead ones screaming at that jerk team switching (sometimes in extreme cases for 5 or 10 minutes not allowing dead ones to mass respawn)

as for seeing who is still alive or not it already exsists to an extent
just press f1 and if a dot next to it they are DEAD... the ones without dots are ALIVE


i think that a bit of hypocrisy is in the time limit suggestion.. you whine to make newcomers wait but don't want to have to wait for the last people playing to finish one another off???
i think the idea of the time limit is a double edged sword. part of the appeal of survival mode is to see who survives.. eventually the 2 players left find each other and take care of the problem...if you can't get to a camper.. the camper takes care of you..problem solved...blast away at that bush and kill the guy hiding there.. and move on to the next one if he isn't behind that bush....thats the appeal of survival for me..to answer the question.. who will survive... ? quite frankly it is rare for a game to last long tween the last 2 people .. in extreme cases maybe a minute or two (tops)...adjust your play to counter for the camper
adendum instead of the time limit how about having a setting where if there are NO kills for a while... like a full minute (or time of server operators choosing) the round is over and everyone respawns... that takes care of the 2 campers that won't budge from their hidey holes problem/scenario

i have another suggestion to survival mode. when i'm dead, i'd like to be able to see the action everywhere! The way it's set now, you can't move further than your vision or your teammates vision... It's pretty darn dull when the whole team is dead at the same place, on bigger maps. also, it would lessen the time that it takes when there's only 2 persons left on the map, since everyone could yell out where the remaining players are located (or in which bush they're hiding). If this is a problem, maybe it would be possible to not allow dead persons to talk to living persons. but that's also dull since 50% of the fun of survival is chatting while you're waiting for the respawn..

...oh well...

oh, and little side-note... you don't see the "You killed <nick>" or "<nick> killed you" msg in survival mode... and no frag console either. why?

I dont like duke always talking about spelling arrors ahah its ok i dont care about spelling errors there cool with me aslong as i know what your saying its great

oooh.. i like the free camera idea by muik....it would give us something to chat about and cure the last 2 men standing problem in a timely manner....
i withdraw my support on my addendum about the 'if no kills for a minute' from my above message and give a similar thumbs down to the time limit idea started by Knightofthemare in favor of the freecamera/freechat modeby muik

yeah free cam. when your team is gone.

I really like the idea of making newcomers/joiners wait. Actually it'd be easier just to not start them until the next spawn. I really like survival mode... but the rejoiners are what really make the match take so long (the campers do to a lesser extent... but they do figure it out eventually).

are you not allowed to right click and look around when your dead in survival? cause I know you can in inf??