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I think it would be odd at first, but might improve accuracy over time. *shrug*

I use tracking ball...its really good, but it takes a day or so to get good used to

lol, is hard to use track ball man...lol.

i rather stick to my optical mouse :P

wait i dont quite get it...is it like a regular mouse but with an added ball on it? and what does the tracker ball do? *confused*

no it's not a mouse it works kinda like a mouse but the ball is sticking out the other way and you move the ball to move the cursor.

Right.

Generally people who use it are afraid of getting carpel tunnel (sp).

The "mouse" itself doesn't move. You move the trackball with your thumb and that moves the mouse (kinda like old school arcade games).

BTW I think soldat would VERY difficult with one of those.

trackball sucks, its only for blind people

lol what does the track ball have to do with blind ppl?!? i dont think blind ppl use a mouse since they can't see the monitor lol. They could have braille keyboards but no mouse.

yeah i guess

lol, the intelligence here is overwhelming!! ¬_¬

Actually, I used to play Counter-Strike with a trackball. Not very exciting... :/

Yeah i think it would be awful. Get a mouse from here instead http://www.razerzone.com/ that's my mouse, just that i got it for free =) . It's one of the best for gaming.

Trackballs rock!
I use a 8 years old Logitech Trackball Marble and it runs perfect. There is no better mouse than mine :).

Touch pads are IMPOSSIBLE to play with lol

Seriously :)

Oh, and btw, after you get used to it (apparently) a trackball is much better than a mouse.

But I like my mousey ^_^

trackballs suxors

I always use trackball!!! I use it since i'm 5 years old!!! I can play with a normal mouse but i think everybody here could kill me if i use one...

my trackball is now like 5 years old...

btw, I WANT 1.1.6[:-weepn]!!!

I don't play with any balls...mice were not meant to be controlled by their round pieces! I was thinking of trying out a trackball-type device the other day, but anything that makes me have to change my ways is a bad thing IMO...

I'm an obvious user of the less primitive technology known by it's little red laser lights...the optical mouse...:P

yeah, i have Microsoft optical. Very nice mouse. Microsoft makes good mouses btw

logitech mx300 baby, yeah... but you have to disable the little button in the center because your finger keeps hitting it and switching programs... not good for NOLF 2... but otherwise its a good mouse. My dad likes trackballs, and when i was little i loved to use his ^_^

I have a regular logitech optical mouse with a scrollwheel. I tell ya, the scrollwhell was the best thing that ever happened to mice! (Well except opticalness). I'm using it now. Plus, it functions as a third button. ALL HAIL TEH SCR011WH331!!!!!1ONE!

Microsoft sux

Wich company is your mouse from??? my is from logitech...great mouse!

btw, still want 1.1.6[:D]

My friend uses a trackball for gaming... he [:-censored]en rocks.
Personally, I'm a cheap ass and prefer to resolder my 4 year old ball-mouse than buy a new one :p

I'm in the market for a new keyboard and mouse, so I figured I would ask.

I'm probably just going to get a plain old optical from logitech or something.

Maybe one day I'll try a trackball.

i like my mouse... a $30 IBM optical from k-mart, it has served me well for the past year and a half, and it is a good size. I really suggest it, IBM makes great mice, and it comes with 5 year warentee. I suggest go to k-mart and check it out :P

5 years warranty...
My graphic card beats that. 10 years warranty!

MicroSoft make the best mice ^_^

Track Balls mouses rock very good choice

LOGITECH!!! RULES wOOT

I have an A4 Tech Mini Optical 3DMouse

heh, only 2 buttons + wheel :P lol

Oy Hi Guyz! I have a Microsoft Optical Trackball (You control the ball with the fingers... The thumb is my trigger finger) I play EVERYTHING with it... And I'm quite good with it... I never really played with a normal mouse... I began with a Trackball... I will finish with a Trackball. I can play with a normal mouse... but I actually LOVE my Trackball :) Noone will convince me... I play CS and Soldat with my TB and I like it :)

Mice are about the only thing microsoft makes well. Apple's are a much better OS. Only too bad Soldat wont work on it. Or will it?

Yeah that is what I have been thinking about aswell(I am getting the 17inch Powerbook...and a Semi Proffesional Camcorder, for practice cause I am going to film school next year 'The New York Film Academy') However if you get Virtual PC on your Mac then it should work. But it would be cool if there would be a version for Mac, but that would mean more work for Mike.

CBW, you are a complete moron. Macintosh makes the crappiest OS. Win XP that i have works fine, never freezes, supports everything there is, best deal for your money.

Operating Sytems 101:
-- If you are an average user, you play games and type papers in MS Word (like i do), get Windows
-- If you run medium size servers, use Linux. Windows just doesnt cut it
-- If you are gay (like CBW) and you like transparent monitors and one-button mouse (gayest thing ever created), get yourself a Mac.


I am sure one smart ass is gonna read this and say: "BMF your idiot, mac is da best for graphics and stuff.." A small fact for you, mr. stupid. Adobe announced that they will not port their products on OSX anymore. One positive thing about Macs is gone.

Macs are crap and they must die. Hitman, you are gay too

quote:Originally posted by BMF
-- If you are gay (like CBW) and you like transparent monitors and one-button mouse (gayest thing ever created), get yourself a Mac.


HAHAHA [8D]

Thank goodness! Someone with some sense! lol

"Apple's are a much better OS"
EVIL STATEMENT!!!

"Macintosh makes the crappiest OS."
GOOOOOOD STATEMENT! ^_^


OSX is crap. Sorry, but it is. lol. It's crap.

What the hell are you talking about Mac is better. It is know to be much more stable than Xp and plus windows stole the Icon concept off Mac. Also the new OSX is extremely compatible with windows. I know why you guys think that it is crap, becuase Mac versions of games come out a couple of months after the Windows ones.

Oh and BMF...SHUT THE HELL UP.

First of all, I wou,ld just like to remind you that everyone is entitled to their opinions. And that is indeed all that they are. (so keep it friendly ;)

ok, I have used OSX since the beginning of this year.

First impressions were - "ooooooo pretty" - It looks nice. But after a few hours of use, you end up disabling all of those pretty features, coz they get in the way, and lower the productivity of any power user.

Apple likes things to be different. And so, they put everything on the opposite side when compared to Windows. For example, the close, minimise, and maximise buttons are on the left.

Instead of having a nice, logical workspace, with everything in a nice easily accessible order, the also decided to use their old menu system, where there is a menu up the top of the screen, similar to the "File, Edit, etc." menu in Windows. But there is only one, and that one is for ALL windows. As a replacement for the taskbar/start menu there is a little 'dock', which you can move around, etc. When you open a program, a little icon pops up. Then you open a window in the program (for IE, etc.). When you want to close internet explorer, you can't even click the little cross in the corner. Oh no, if you do that, all you'll do is close the window that it's in. It will still be open... So you have to then Right-Click on the icon in the dock, and close it.

And if you have multiple windows open? Hah, then you have to right click on the icon in the dock and select the window you want from a list...

All of this just doesn't suit how I work. It slows me down.

Now, Hitman, as I said earlier, this is just a matter of opinion, and that is my opinion. For me personally, it makes me a lot slower than I am on a PC (especially mine ^^) :P lol

Just as an example, here is the kinda stuff I like to be able to do on my compy:

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My statements:
1-Mac is crap
2-Mac Os is a good OS, but with how many computers must it be compatible? Few Mac models(therefore it is worst than other OS), while both Mocosoft and Linux must be compatible with the whole world of PCs. That is the reason why it may be more stabler than Windows (and certainly Windows was created following Mac OS and OS/2 developments). But why then simple people do not buy MAc?
3-Mac is expensive. With same characteristics a Mac costs double money. Therefore statement 1
The only reason why some people still used Mac was either graphical development with Photoshop(someone said there is no more support from Adobe) or design(had you seen the latest towers for PC?). Therefore gain statement 1.
BMF talks crap, but when he is right he is right.

Otherwise my Penguin Tux will annihilate any non-Linux users

haha guess what?
OSX IS Unix.

NightCabbage: get a browser that supports tabbed browsing (eg, mozilla [firebird]) :)

quote:But why then simple people do not buy MAc?

(a teacher who uses Mac in my school told me this)The stupid thing that Mac did was they did not licence their software to Computer manufactors. However windows did, which made windows the default OS for the industry, which of course means for home use. That is why alot of people and companies do not buy Mac cause is not the default or number one OS.

If Mac had licenced their software to Computer manufactors then Windows would have never had stood a Chance...and thats a fact. So whatever twat stoped Mac being licenced to computer manufacters, needs a good punch in the face.

Also (as you said NightCabbage, a matter of opinion) the new range of mac computers have come top in many polls...Such as in the magazine stuff (all about electronics and stuff) Mac has the top Laptop, Desktop and Music Player(ipod). Plus they are sexy as hell.[;)]

dude macs suck. u can only open like three files at once and it still freezes. ive seen some where u close the file ur playin music on but it still plays lol. no what u need is an alienware. its like trying to beat a dung beatle to a pile of smoldering rhino crap.

i tried a trackball i didnt care for it tho

Macs suck for many reasons listed above. Mainly:

-- Weird ass interface (read NC's post). I cant understand how a person with a normal sense of reality could code something like this. They had to be smoking something. I had Macs at school, we have a couple of MAcs at work to work with photos. I mean it took me like 20 min (i am not joking) to figure out how to get the CD out of the machine. And I am very not stupid. Its just to open it, you have to drag the CD shortcut from your desktop, into the Recycle bin!!!!! I mean WTF. And its filled with stuff like that.

-- Macs crash like no other. They crash like crazy. They dont back up files. AT ALL. After a MAc, Win XP is like a breath of fresh air.

-- The one-buttoned mouse. My god, i hate the mouse. Its just gay

Linux has a horrible graphic interface. It takes like 20 min to install a game. But if you like screwing around with DOS-like prompt, its for you. Its free and its best for medium size servers.
But i am sticking to Windows.

squeek - I like having easy access to my windows :) lol tabs r evul lol

And BMF - ain't it funny how to eject your CD you have to drag it to the trash can!?!? rofl!

quote:
Linux has a horrible graphic interface. It takes like 20 min to install a game.

It seems you had not used Linux too much. Linux does not have a graphical interface, it has many... or none if you prefer. It took me 4 hours to install a game in Windows so do not give examples. In Linux everything is usually compressed and if not it is much faster than windows

i am not saying its faster or slower. Its just harder to installs something on Linux. If it took you 4 hours to install a game on Windows, you are stupid.

NC, i have no freaking idea who could have thought of something like that. Its so sick and twisted =)

LOL BMF, had you ever heard of files .uha or .rpm? Then do not talk about that.

Mwhaha trax ball sux! Optical rulez! i have an ligitech Mx300

I love the occasionally posts from people trying to get back to the Topic.

Macs rule. The new G5 is the worlds fastest, most powerful personal computer, Hah beat that (*mocking voice*) 'Windows'. And the stuff about not being able to open three things at once, that is the biggest pile of S**T I have heard (no affence TSP G-Unit).

Man, a Mac could take on any of your 'Windows' computers and kick their ass!

Well, Microsoft doesn't make computers, so you really can't blame them. :P Apple has to make their computers super-ppoweful or there's no reason anybody would buy the damn things.

Yes, BManx is right. Macs make their own hardware and their own software. Microsoft does not make hardware at all.

"Man, a Mac could take on any of your 'Windows' computers and kick their ass!"

Hitman, do you understand that Macintosh is a company, and Windows is an operating system? Macintosh produces everything from monitors to CPUs to spearker. Microsoft makes mice and operating systems. They have no control over how powerful the computers are.

crack - you know you can get optical trackball mice ;)

BMF and pall - ahahahahahahaha :)

bman - remember the xbox? that's practically a computer :P
and my friend's crashes all the time :P lol but then there was that time where he did drop it... ;)

Also, just out of interest >;)

"Man, a Mac could take on any of your 'Windows' computers and kick their ass!"

Actually, when you consider the fact that Microsoft has to make their software run on thousands of combinations of hardware, and Apple has to make their software run on, hmmmmmmm, one, to which they can then make their OS specifically for this configuration - it suddenly looks crap. lol

You see, every time when I click on a program on a MAC and it makes me wait 5 seconds to open, I just think to myself "bah, this is shit" ;)

Because the hardware must be truly, truly crap. It runs a pretty interface nicely, but it takes much longer to simply open a program when compared to a PC.

hehe ^^ this debate is fun!

The G5 specs are [:-censored]ing awesome, but in practice they are sh.it. I hate all macintosh OS' and opening programs takes a few days. It does kind of remind me of the Xbox :/ Xbox = good in theory (specs), but sh.it games, therefore = sh.it

G5 sux, Virtual Pc is not compatible with it.

quote:Originally posted by palloco
G5 sux, Virtual Pc is not compatible with it.


Oh really? You learn something new every day...

but, yes, G5's suck. I would never even consider to buy one.

"You see, every time when I click on a program on a MAC and it makes me wait 5 seconds to open, I just think to myself "bah, this is [:-censored]" ;)"

NC, how did you manage to put the [:-censored] word in there?

He is GOD here, so he decides what can be put and what cannot.

Just call it moderator privs ^^

Yes, IBM's little PowerPC looks quite nice, but it'll prolly suck when it in one of those horrible boxes :P

ewwwww *shudders*

quote:Adobe announced that they will not port their products on OSX anymore. One positive thing about Macs is gone

Um BMF the Apple website just announced the release of the new Adobe Creative Suite[^]: http://www.apple.com/macosx/applications/adobe/

So...you were saying

i take back what i said. One positive thing about Macs is still there. YAY!

Good. So we're cool...

Argh, I tried a normal mouse and it sucks even more than me, it stops moving constantly.

PS: It is nice to revive old threads

no, no lo es

(no, it is not)

that's why you have to use an optical mouse. No skipping.