I think backflip should not happen until you obtain a certain speed/acceleration. This is because you sometimes do the backflip unintentionally when you aren't going very fast, and all it does is make you roll into the air vertically and then back down again in a small arc, which slows you down A LOT. It is very annoying. Backflips should be mostly horizontal.

Nah, the whole point of backflip is to dodge some bullets when u standstill
there's no point removing it when u'r moving..

the back flip animation really sucks and it doesnt really help dodging bullets, it needs to be improved a little

So what do you suggest?

i think increasing the jump in the back flip would be a good idea and mabe somone could try making a good back flip animation with the poa editor and make it official if its good

quote:Originally posted by Michal MarcinkowskiSo what do you suggest?
Getting rid of it.

Ahh shut up the lot of you. Michal said no suggestions didn't he?

Besides I find backflip very useful just as it is. You arsebandits only hate it 'cos it interrupts your pussy m79 jumps.

Hahahaha! It's true. It restricts M79 jumping. It deserves to stay.

Yeah, isn't this update merely for bug fixes? And where does the weapon balance come into play with that?

I don't really care about the animation, but I guess the flip itself is pretty fine. I must say I don't really use it for dodging bullets, but it also serves useful for jumps you else couldn't make. As long as it doesn't give you a speed advantage I'm fine..

im fine with the backflip as is. I can use it to dodge + to bring me into a better battle position. All you need is good timing, to avoid interrupting a flight from the enemy.

Leave it.

I say leave it. It's actually a good way to stop quickly, and you may end up dodging a bullet or two. It's also fun to use, for some reason.

quote:Originally posted by KazukiHahahaha! It's true. It restricts M79 jumping. It deserves to stay.

Yeah, isn't this update merely for bug fixes? And where does the weapon balance come into play with that?


I can still jump with it + it makes it easier to get out of the blue kampf base :P Also I find it does help for dodging and getting through fire

I said minor tweaks are possible. I made the backflip by pressing the crouch button instead of the jets button, I think it will solve the problems.

argh, like we need to make m79 jumping more accessible!

You did? So now I'm going to throw my flag into the enemies hands when I'll try to evade his storm of grenade spam and other projectiles? Why, that really makes me happy.


( To put aside the sarcasm, have you thought this through man? :) )

nah, leave the backflip at is, no new key setting for it please (except you make it somehow customizable)

I also say keep Jump + Jets, so M79 boosters will have it a little bit harder.

quote:Originally posted by DeMonIcYou did? So now I'm going to throw my flag into the enemies hands when I'll try to evade his storm of grenade spam and other projectiles? Why, that really makes me happy.


( To put aside the sarcasm, have you thought this through man? :) )
hahahahahhahaha

quote:Originally posted by grand_diablonah, leave the backflip at is, no new key setting for it please (except you make it somehow customizable)

Kekeke

quote:Originally posted by MisterXI also say keep Jump + Jets, so M79 boosters will have it a little bit harder.

Agreed. (Even though I'm a m79 user.. it's realy annoying seeing ppl boosting all around with it)

I learnt to boost just fine with it as it is.. All it takes is practise ;\ . Same goes for the LAW, i used to think it was terrible, but once you get used to the delay it is still very useful.

I often use the backflip to get up on a ledge faster than my enemy would expect... and then surprise him with a BANG. I have used it to dodge things as well, I find it very effective, and I dont think it needs to be tweaked.

Well it's not hard to change the backflip combination, so maybe I'll release a version with the crouch button and we can see how it goes.

But how should it work? Jump+Crouch is set for throwing the flag at the moment. And if everybody is fine with the combination we have now, why change it?

Hmm I forgot about the flag throwing...
but you don't have to keep the jump button pressed to do the backflip, well you'll see.

I know, but the time that's there to jump and speratly use jet isn't really long. It could cause a lot of irritation I guess. Even now people sometimes throw the flag because they crouch with it, want to jump but accidently do both at the same time. It shouldn't be more irritating. It works with jump+jet, I still don't see why it should be changed..

I say hit Jump twice. It worked nicely in Worms, why wouldn't it work in Soldat? :)

Because then M79 boosters would run amoc in broods, and many keyboards would be shred to pieces by double-tapping the damn jump button. The backflip, as it is in 1.3, is a genius feature: it's both a nifty dodging trick and something that prevents M79 jumps from being overpowered, because they are tricky to do. Although the animation could be a little bit more like in Worms (throwing his legs over himself, more comical looking)

Id say, leave the backflip the way it is and add an additional button for flag throwing. Cause the back flip works perfectly imo, and the risk of accidentally throwing the flag would be minimized (although it has never happened to me)

quote:Originally posted by AlamoI say hit Jump twice. It worked nicely in Worms, why wouldn't it work in Soldat? :)


because i always just in soldat